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1 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | Apollos | 185814 | ||
Doc Thanks for your helpful response. I 'm sure you are right. I wonder though about people who were regenerate prior to Christ's coming like the saints of Hebrews 11 who were saved by grace through faith and who demonstrated their faith by their works. This was all without hearing of Christ (for obvious reasons). There are even examples in the OT of gentiles who were clearly regenerate like Job and Melchizedek. My queries about Cornelius are just a tentative exploration of the possibility that he may have been someone like this. Such people on hearing the gospel will always of course recogise it as just what they have been waiting for. Is it even possible that such people may exist today who have not yet heard of Christ? These are only honest questions and my Evangelical convictions are not in doubt. I am very happy to be shot down in flames! Thanks for your great contributions and wonderful quotations. Apollos |
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2 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | stjohn | 185820 | ||
Amen brother Apollos! I have thought About this too. The saints of the old Testament were obviously saved, without knowing Jesus, but they did have the Gospel. i.e. The knowledge of the coming of the Kinsman redeemer spoken of by God, way back in Genesis. Does that help any? God bless. John |
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3 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | Apollos | 185823 | ||
I have no problem with the regeneration and salvation of those within the OT covenant people of God who rejoiced to see Christ's day and with whom we will sit down in the kingdom. What about non-Jews before the coming of Christ who showed all the signs of being regenerate - e.g. Job and Melchizedek? I am just curious whether there might have been others like them, e.g. Cornelius. Could it even be possible that there are others like them today? The gospel still needs to be preached to them - what a privilege to have preached Christ to Abraham even though he was already regenerate! I am not being dogmatic about any of this - just asking questions. That's why I am remaining anonymous and just using my screen name! In Christ Apollos |
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4 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | stjohn | 185826 | ||
Thank you Apollos, Good questions all of them, hear is something else to look at. I'm not saying you need to you seem to have a very good understanding of scripture. but look at this please. Josh 6:25 However, Rahab the harlot and her father's household and all she had, Joshua spared; and she has lived in the midst of Israel to this day, for she hid the messengers whom Joshua sent to spy out Jericho. Heb 11:31 By faith Rahab the harlot did not perish along with those who were disobedient, after she had welcomed the spies in peace. James 2:25 In the same way, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? And, we can see as humans, God's work in creation by way of general revelation, i.e. The heavens declare His glory! Maybe for some that is enough? God and His Great Mercy? I don't have the answer for sure. I know this tough, I'd rather be standing before The almighty God. Never having heard the Word, then someone that did and did nothing about it. God bless. John |
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