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1 | Elders not a pastor should lead church | Bible general Archive 3 | Bereaniam | 176471 | ||
Tim, If you can not see that pastor, elder, overseer, presbytery are synonyms, we will never resolve this. Please do a word study on the latter list of terms and see that they are used interchangeably in the Bible. I do not know any other way to explain this to you. If someone else is reading this, please weigh in to help our brother Tim. I gave you a list of duties of the elders...what do you mean by "there are a few things...about the duties...based upon narrative passages." The "narrative passages" that you related to are scriptures... inspired Words of God. Paul said, "If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord" 1Cor 14:37. Paul is the apostle to the Gentiles...that's you, unless you are a Jew. Paul was given the words, straight from Jesus, on how to set up the church. To reiterate, he said the elders would be overseers. He outlined the qualifications of the elders. Peter said elders would be overseers of the church. You have been hired, chosen, appointed, or called to be the "pastor" of the believers where you are, right? So, you are the overseer, right? What is your "exact" job description? You said, "God doesn't give us an exact job job description." If God calls someone into the ministry, I would think when you pray and ask Him what to do "exactly", He would tell you. How specific do you want Him to be? Just the words: oversee and feed my flock seem to cover a lot of ground and easy to understand. I am glad you have many leaders for your church...the problem is that you also have a pyramid...with only one person at the top. The leadership is not egalitarian. You said the devil is getting me hung up over a nonessential point. The government and the way God intends for His church to be set up is nonessential, Tim? We may as well throw out the Bible and just "do church" based on what we think and feel. Paul said let all things be done decently and in order 1Cor 14:40. Even America's founding fathers realized that we had to have an organized government for this country to function. Tim, I am submitted to our Father, and I am sure you are too...always ready to have the eyes of our understanding enlightened. We are in Him and He is in you and me, Bereaniam p.s. The word "pastors", plural only appears once in the NT. p.s. |
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2 | Elders not a pastor should lead church | Bible general Archive 3 | srbaegon | 176480 | ||
Hello Bereaniam, I would not say that pastor is the same as elder/overseer. However, I am certain that elders/overseers are to be the spiritual leadership of the local church. As I see Eph 4, the pastor-teacher is an itinerant ministry. It's a gift to the whole church and not one local body. Steve |
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3 | Elders not a pastor should lead church | Bible general Archive 3 | Bereaniam | 176483 | ||
Thanks Steve, I appreciate your input and insight. Bereaniam |
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