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1 | Are we supposed to observe the Sabbath? | Bible general Archive 2 | khuck | 102981 | ||
As Lord of the Sabbath Jesus is the Ruler and King of it... His Kingdom was established on the day of Pentecost. Which fell on the 1st day of the week. These have always been the reasons that I have held as with most Christians for Sunday worship. Matthew 12 5 And haven't you ever read in the law of Moses that the priests on duty in the Temple may work on the Sabbath? 6 I tell you, there is one here who is even greater than the Temple! 7 But you would not have condemned those who aren't guilty if you knew the meaning of this Scripture: 'I want you to be merciful; I don't want your sacrifices.' F67 8 For I, the Son of Man, am master even of the Sabbath." As Lord of the Sabbath Jesus is the Ruler and King of it... His Kingdom was established on the day of Pentecost. Which fell on the 1st day of the week. In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. the end - The Hebrew word Schabbath, from which our English word is derived, signifies rest, and is applied to all solemn festivals, equally with that one day of every week devoted to the worship of God; Eze 20:21, "they polluted my sabbaths. Three evangelists say, the transaction recorded in this verse, occurred upon the first day of the week, early in the morning, about sunrising, and John says, while it was yet dark. Commentary...Try as one might, he will search in vain for New Testament evidence that the primitive church observed the sabbath with apostolic approval. Yes, it certainly was the case that the apostles frequented the synagogues on the sabbath for the purpose of proclaiming the gospel. That is where the greatest concentration of Jews would have been (cf. Acts 13:14; 17:1-2, etc.), and the message regarding Jesus was to be spoken first to them (Rom. 1:16). But where is the evidence that the early church, under divine guidance, came together to worship God on the sabbath day? The kingdom of Christ was established on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:1), which always fell on “the morrow after the sabbath” (Lev. 23:15-16), hence, on Sunday. So the church started out meeting for worship on the first day of the week (cf. Acts 2:42). The disciples at Troas “were gathered together” [passive voice] upon “the first day of the week” to break bread, i.e., to worship, (Acts 20:7). The specific day of meeting was no accident. Though Paul was anxious to get to Jerusalem (20:16), he waited seven days for the opportunity to assemble with the church. Moreover, the passive voice (see above) indicates that the assemblage was orchestrated by someone other than the disciples; it was of divine initiative. The saints in Corinth were assembling, and contributing into the church treasury, “every first day of the week” (1 Cor. 16:2 – Greek text; cf. NASB). On the isle of Patmos, John was “in the spirit” on “the Lord’s day” (Rev. 1:10). The term for “Lord’s” is kupiakos, which is defined here as “relating to the Lord.” Thayer comments: “. . . the day devoted to the Lord, sacred to the memory of Christ’s resurrection” (365). The Gospel narratives, of course, make it clear that the resurrection occurred on Sunday. While Revelation 1:10 would not be conclusive by itself, the very fact that the day is specifically mentioned is significant. God's Peace be with us! -khuck |
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2 | Are we supposed to observe the Sabbath? | Bible general Archive 2 | Searcher56 | 103288 | ||
Kathy ... My concern is that many quote another source, believing it is true. Wayne Jackson said what you did http://www.christiancourier.com/archives/sabbath.htm ... however when I checked the Acts 20:7 out, I found he was not correct. Searcher |
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3 | Are we supposed to observe the Sabbath? | Bible general Archive 2 | khuck | 103416 | ||
I hold to the fact that because the resurrection as well as the pentecost was on a sunday IS WHY WE AT MY CHURCH ATTEND ON THAT DAY. IF you think that is wrong that is your opinion and I ain't mad at ya. But that is what and why we do it.(Pentecost is the only festival for which no specific date is given in the Bible. Rather, the people were instructed to count seven weeks “...from the morrow after the Sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf [omer] of the wave offering (Lev. 23:15). Pentecost was CELEBRATED ON SUNDAY CHECK LEV. Go and worship in a church with others who are worshipping Christ that Sunday (if you don't have a church, pick one and go). If you regularly go to church, invite someone to go with you for Pentecost Sunday. The Spirit birthed the fellowship of Jesus' followers (the church) that first Pentecost, so to try to worship Christ by yourself is even more of a rejection of the Spirit on Pentecost than it usually is. -Robert Longman Jr. Compare these First Pentecost (The Commandments Given) Pentecost After Christ (The Holy Spirit Given) First Pentecost -Fifty days from the crossing of the Red Sea Pentecost After Christ -Fifty days from the resurrection of Christ First Pentecost -Law of Yahweh written in Stone Pentecost After Christ -Law of Yahweh written on our hearts First Pentecost -Three thousand slain Pentecost After Christ Three -thousand receive salvation First Pentecost -The letter of the Law Pentecost After Christ -The Spirit of the Law This is the end of my research for your sake... I am indeed a Christian and take no offense at your statement about the possibility of my responses making me or them against Christ. LOL and yes that is funny. These are the things that let me know I must be serving him. But I have not the time or inclination to debate you. As I said before... if you have otherwise... do as I do... post your reasons. But please get off my back... unlike many here I am not looking for a war of words, nor am I here to prove that I am the smartest LOL. I readily admit that I am not the sharpest pencil in the can. BUT I KNOW THAT I LOVE THE LORD WITH EVERYTHING THAT IS IN ME. And all of the research and learned knowledge in the world will never EVER change that. I only seek that He be glorified, I seek no glory. His grace is sufficient for me, khuck |
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4 | Are we supposed to observe the Sabbath? | Bible general Archive 2 | Searcher56 | 103422 | ||
I am not concerned about the day of "worship" which should be holy ... not a holiday ... I am concerned that you said something that is wrong. Wayne Jackson said that the context proves his point ... and didn't defend the it is in the passive voice and that it meant it was by God (divine). It is against Christ when you say something about the Bible is not so ... that Acts 20:7 is in the passive voice and that it meant it was by God (divine). |
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5 | Are we supposed to observe the Sabbath? | Bible general Archive 2 | khuck | 103642 | ||
Examine yourself Searcher, when you call me an anti-christ because I refuse to interpret something as you do. I confess Christ as my Lord and Savior, I preach Christ to inner city teens and young adults as a Youth Minister at Ambassadors for Christ Christian Church, and I am also a founding member and the web designer for Northbound Community Church in Thousand Oaks, CA (see our beliefs and mission at northboundcc.org) In light of these facts if you will say that I am against Christ or anti Christ... then in light of the following verse are you also against Him? Whoever Is Not Against Us Is for Us Mark 9:38 "Teacher," said John, "we saw a man driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us." "Do not stop him," Jesus said. "No one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, for whoever is not against us is for us. I tell you the truth, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to Christ will certainly not lose his reward. -khuck |
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6 | Are we supposed to observe the Sabbath? | Bible general Archive 2 | Searcher56 | 103666 | ||
Kathy ... First, I am not debating the day of worship - it is a minor issue. Second, while it is great that are a Christian and do many things for Him. However, when you quoted/said "Moreover, the passive voice (see above) indicates that the assemblage was orchestrated by someone other than the disciples; it was of divine initiative" ... I proved that was not true. -I showed than man's action is in the passive voice. -I believe Satan's action is in the passive voice. -As well as God's action also can be in the active or middle voice. I contrast Mark 9:38-41 with Matthew 7:21-23 and chapter 25. What people say and do could be a mask. I take care when I post something that I heard, to make sure it lines up with Scripture. When I read or hear something that does not line up with Scripture - I must challange the person. It was a problem in Galatia (Gal 1:6-9) ... but not Berea (Act 17:11). I believe the statement you posted is another gospel, because it is saying that is not true. I don't know Greek well ... but I use several sources. So I am sure what I say is true. Note ... Jackson blew me off, too. He diverted my question to looking at the context. Finally, my intention was not to offend you ... it was to correct your thinking. Searcher |
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7 | Are we supposed to observe the Sabbath? | Bible general Archive 2 | khuck | 103670 | ||
Searcher... I stand by my post. And I disagree with you. I have no desire to correct your thinking and I wonder how can you possibly undertake correcting mine? That is a rather arrogant statement. My original intention was to explain why, "I, me, Kathy Huck), choose to worship on Sunday. I used commentary and articles that substantiate my behavior. I will not say that any of these are the final authority, nor will I say that you are. I never mentioned passive active or medium voices. And I have made it clear and now I ask you with every bit of humility within me, let His Peace abide with us. I truly tire of this and I hope you will not think me to be rude if I not respond to anymore comments from you to me regarding this subject. God Bless you, -khuck |
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8 | Are we supposed to observe the Sabbath? | Bible general Archive 2 | Searcher56 | 103700 | ||
Kathy ... Please enter 102981 under Quick Search. Then search for passive voice ... I have cited what you said in the previous post. I am done on this matter. Searcher |
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