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1 | Do you have to be baptised to be saved | Bible general Archive 2 | Emmaus | 100553 | ||
John, No it wasn't tongue in cheek. I was not referring to God's pleasure and apparently not yours either. Your exception is noted. God commanded baptism. There will apparently be no agreement here on the necessity of it for salavation, but there is no argument that Christ commanded it and set the example in his own life. Even those who profess baptismal regeneration, such as myself, often do so with certain exceptions as my post did. Emmaus |
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2 | Do you have to be baptised to be saved | Bible general Archive 2 | John Reformed | 100560 | ||
Dear Emmaus, I am one who does believe that baptism is necessary; not necessary for salvation itself, but, to be obediant to Christ, and as a sign to the world that one has been made a new creature. "We are saved by grace... not works". I don't know how anyone could explain away this foundational passage. I'm truly perplexed. Just a comment. Please don't feel compelled to reply. Of course, you are welcome to if you so choose. John |
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3 | Do you have to be baptised to be saved | Bible general Archive 2 | Emmaus | 100561 | ||
John, The differnce between us is that I believe the grace that saves is transmitted in baptism, although God can also distribute his grace in any other manner He sees fit. If baptism is a work it is God's work not ours. We are not the workers in baptism, though the one that baptises may be God's instrument. That John 3:5 refers to baptism is a defined matter of faith for Catholics. What constitutes exaplaining as opposed to "explaining away" is a subjective judgement. Emmaus |
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4 | Do you have to be baptised to be saved | Bible general Archive 2 | John Reformed | 100564 | ||
Dear Emmaus, If you don't mind, I would like to address your reply point by point in the hope of reaching an understanding of why it is that you believe as you do. You wrote, "The difference between us is that I believe the grace that saves is transmitted in baptism,“ How do you reconcile you belief with Eph 2:8 "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;"? Do you see faith as being in the category of "any other manner He sees fit"? John |
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5 | Do you have to be baptised to be saved | Bible general Archive 2 | Emmaus | 100565 | ||
John, It's deja vu all over again as Yogi used to say. We have been here before. This is why I am disinclined to engage with you. See # 87532, 87537, 87538 Remember? And no I do not see faith as being in the category of 'any other manner He sees fit." Do you ever ask a question that does not presuppose an answer? That question, by the way, is rhetorical and also presupposes an answer. Emmaus |
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6 | Do you have to be baptised to be saved | Bible general Archive 2 | Hank | 100583 | ||
Emmaus - Maybe his deja vu is out of whack. ...... I think you're right -- I seem to have a vague recollection that the subject of regenerational vs. nonregenerational baptism has been on before, at least enough to wear out several hammers on the old anvil! ...... Since it's chic to end every post with a question, preferably one that presupposes an answer, here goes mine: Emmaus, since it is true that the devil carries a pitchfork and wears a red knit suit, why don't you believe he does? An essay of 500 words will suffice. --Hank | ||||||