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1 | Entering Heaven | NT general Archive 1 | Christian tim | 71322 | ||
Hi Joe, I think we are close to agreement let me clear up what I,m trying to say. I'm glad you mentioned Hebrews 11 I believe it proves what I intended to say. Since I brought up Abraham lets focus on him with some mention of the others. Notice in these cases of faith that after having faith that each person was in action DOING. HEB 11:3 BY FAITH WE UNDERSTAND 11:4 BY FAITH ABEL OFFERED 11:5 BY FAITH ENOCH PLEASED GOD 11:7 BY FAITH NOAH BUILT 11:8 BY FAITH ABRAHAM OBEYED 11:9 BY FAITH HE MADE 11:17 BY FAITH ABRAHAM OFFERED ISAAC WHAT I'M SAYING IS IS THAT FAITH (JUST IN YOUR MIND BELIEVING JESUS IS GODS SON IS NOT SAVING FAITH)FAITH IS ONLY SAVING FAITH WHEN IT IS COMPLETED WITH OBEDIENCE TO THE GOSPEL. SAVING FAITH IS FAITH AND ACTION TOGETHER NOTHING LESS. I think James says this better James2:14-26 What good is it my brothers if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? James 2:21 Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar. 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together,and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says " Abraham believed God and it was credited to him as righteousness". 24 You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone. |
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2 | Entering Heaven | NT general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 71346 | ||
You wrote: "SAVING FAITH IS FAITH AND ACTION TOGETHER NOTHING LESS." Then why does the Bible say that Abraham BELIEVED God, and it was credited to him as righteousness (Genesis 15:6; Romans 4:3; Galatians 3:6)? Yes, Abraham's belief/faith led to obedience, but he was justified by faith before obeying. Faith and obedience go hand-in-hand, but they are not the same thing. We are saved as an act of God's mercy. Our salvation is not earned by us (Ephesians 2:8). At the same time, as you have correctly pointed out, the saving faith that God does work in His people leads to obedience. That, too, is an act of God's grace. "For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age, looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus, who gave Himself for us to redeem us from every lawless deed, and to purify for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds." --Titus 2:11-14 --Joe! |
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