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1 | Do we get saved by Baptism? | 1 Pet 3:21 | Tamara Brewington | 203731 | ||
Interesting view that veiwing these scriptures as opposing arguments is tough, but you did not reconcile the scriptures in question. I already agree that salvation is by faith alone, by grace alone. Are these really different aspects of God's grace, or are they irreconcilable? | ||||||
2 | Do we get saved by Baptism? | 1 Pet 3:21 | jwid7 | 203778 | ||
Baptism represents repentance. We bury our old life for His new life. So, the reference here is to remind us that we no longer live according to our past sinful desires, but to the resurrected life in Christ. | ||||||
3 | Do we get saved by Baptism? | 1 Pet 3:21 | lionheart | 203782 | ||
jwid7, Welcome to the forum. I read Tamara's post to you and she made a valid point on reconciling scripture. I believe all scripture can be reconciled. It's a matter of people being willing and able to do the homework and leg work involved in studying all this out in the context of God's Word. 2 Timothy 2:15, 3:16,17 and 2 Peter 1:19-21. With these as bedrock scriptures we can begin to do productive studies of God's Word and we will fine that scripture is reconcilable and doesn't contradict itself. Look at Mark 16:15, Matt 28:18-20, Acts 2:38. It all fits together. Baptism is part of our salvation as is faith and repentance. Now the question is and I will say this off the get go that if we take any one of these things do you still have salvation? 2 Timothy 2:15 is extremely important here. In Him, lionheart |
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4 | Do we get saved by Baptism? | 1 Pet 3:21 | humbledbyhisgrace | 203802 | ||
Brother lionheart, Was the thief on the cross saved (Luke 23:43)? If so, what of the three things you mention are a part of salvation is missing? Steve |
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5 | Do we get saved by Baptism? | 1 Pet 3:21 | lionheart | 203804 | ||
Steve, I should have been clearer on this. Yes of course the thief on the cross was saved. Our Lord had the authority to grant salvation to this person. Time and place are important here as this occurs before the church administration. In Him, lionheart |
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6 | Do we get saved by Baptism? | 1 Pet 3:21 | humbledbyhisgrace | 203807 | ||
My Dear Brother, what does the church add in regards to our salvation? And here dear brother, was the church established at this point and what of the three things might we find missing and of what do we find here of the church? Ephesians 2:8-9 (NASB) 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 2:9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. Romans 10:9-10 (NASB) 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10:10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. Am I misunderstanding you? Steve |
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7 | Do we get saved by Baptism? | 1 Pet 3:21 | lionheart | 203813 | ||
Steve, My brother in part yes. What I was stating was that at the time of the crucifixion people were still under the old covenant not the new. Acts 2:38 is not yet available. What happened at the cross with the thief was no less of faith and God's grace than today. This was within Jesus authority to grant salvation here which he did. We just had not entered the present administration at that particular time. I hope I'm making a little more sense here. If I'm missing something here tell me. In Him, lionheart |
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8 | Do we get saved by Baptism? | 1 Pet 3:21 | humbledbyhisgrace | 203827 | ||
Let's go back to your original statement. You said "Now the question is and I will say this off the get go that if we take any one of these things do you still have salvation?" You were speaking of these three things, baptism, faith and repentance. It appears you are saying that if we take any of the three away we no longer have salvation. Is that what you were saying? To me it appeared that is what you were insinuating. Then you pointed out that the church had not yet been established and since then that salvation comes by a different method then it did before the church. At least that's what I'm getting out of your post. If in fact this is what you are saying, please explain. If not, then forgive me for misrepresenting your comments. Steve |
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9 | Do we get saved by Baptism? | 1 Pet 3:21 | lionheart | 203883 | ||
Steve, Good day my brother. I don't always make things clear when I'm putting things down on paper. The three things I mentioned, what I should have said not that we don't have salvation but that when any of this gets left out then the whole story isn't being told. Concerning the church I should have stated that up to this point people were instructed according to the law and the baptism they knew was John's baptism which was a baptism of repentance where as of Pentecost baptism is now a baptism of salvation. This is one of the differences as I understand it. My brother you weren't misrepresenting anything. You were asking legitimate questions. Brother you were doing what we should all be doing and I for one am grateful for that. In Him, lionheart |
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