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1 | clear conscience | 1 Tim 3:2 | Searcher56 | 7193 | ||
First CAPITAL letters are hard to read and used for emphasis. I think you mean 1 Tim 1:5. As ALWAYS, look at the context. The first is the paragraph (vv. 3-11), which talks about false teachers. In verse 5, it starts with "the goal of this command" ... referring back to verse 3, where Timothy is ot give a command to certain men, tose preaching a false Gospel. Giving the command, needs to be done in love (speak the truth in love (Eph 4:15)), pure heart (2 Tim. 2:22), good (clear) conscience (vs. 19, 3:9) and sincere faith (2 Tim 1:5). In order to reprove these people, Timothy needed all these things. I used the other parts of the context, by looking at the book of 1 Timothy and the rest of the Bible. Having a good or clear conscience does not mean I am innocent (1 Cor. 4:4). I know the truth and speak it, even if I am not a minister. The only way to keep a good or clear conscience is to study the Bible. When I see someone not telling the truth, my mind is clear - so with the other re |
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2 | clear conscience | 1 Tim 3:2 | Ray | 7196 | ||
Hi Steve, It appears you did some good studying here, but the question posed probably did indeed come from 2nd Timothy 1:3. | ||||||
3 | clear conscience | 1 Tim 3:2 | Ray | 7199 | ||
Hi Steve, I created a new, clear conscience for all of us on the forum at 2nd Timothy 1:3. This isn't so hard is it. Or is it? | ||||||
4 | clear conscience | 1 Tim 3:2 | kalos | 7200 | ||
Ray: thanks for creating a new, clear conscience. I know I could use one. (it's a joke) take care --JVH0212 | ||||||
5 | clear conscience | 1 Tim 3:2 | Ray | 7204 | ||
Hi JVH, While people who are seeking a "clear conscience" rightly go to 2Timothy 1:3 for a discussion, maybe we can talk of other things. I was looking at Steve's references above, especially Epesians 4:15,"...but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him, who is the head, even Christ." I am of the opinion that 2Timothy is concerned with the truth and the word of truth, and coming to the knowledge of the truth. I am of the opinion that 1st Timothy is concerned with coming to the knowlege of the Truth (2:4), knowing the (Truth) (4:3), in contrast with those deprived of the (Truth) (6:5). Are you interested in stating an opinion? |
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6 | clear conscience | 1 Tim 3:2 | kalos | 7208 | ||
Ray: Yes, I am interested in stating an opinion. Thank you for asking. My opinion is that I agree with you, Ray. :-) JVH0212 |
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7 | clear conscience | 1 Tim 3:2 | Ray | 7214 | ||
JVH says:I agree with you,Ray.Ray says: "Perhaps you misunderstood me.":-) Consider this: I am of the opinion that Paul in Ephesians talks of Christ being the head of the church (l:22 and 5:23 and 4:15) and head over all things. I am of the opinion that Paul in Colossians speaks of Him as being the Head. Colossians 1:18 Ray's version: "He is also Head of the body, the church; and He is the Beginning, the firstborn of the dead, so that He (Himself) will come to have first place in everything."NASB (Parenthesis and added caps mine) Colossians 2:10,"...and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the Head over all rule and authority;..." Colossians 2:19,"...and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the entire body, being supplied and held together by the joints and ligaments, grows with a growth which is from God." Any opinion? Take care, Ray |
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8 | clear conscience | 1 Tim 3:2 | charis | 7218 | ||
Dear Ray, Actually, while I do have an opinion, I don't think it encompasses this thread. The reason is that I am not sure what this thread is anymore :-) More than anything, I wanted to congratulate you on your tenacity. I propose that we give the title "Ray's Personal Capitalization Version" (RPCV) to your ideas on the correct punctuation of the Word. I must admit that I have gotten used to the idea. (though I still don't have an overwhelming desire to annotate my entire Bible :-) Ray, your participation is valuable to this forum, and I thank you for being here. Blessings in Jesus' name, charis |
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9 | clear conscience | 1 Tim 3:2 | Ray | 7227 | ||
Dear charis and JVH, I respect your opinions, and I knew you weren't a "yes" man, JVH. I spoke about capitalization here because I figured it would be a good "out of the way" spot considering the thread's misunderstandings. If everyone is tired of hearing my ideas about it, I can try to constrain myself. Maybe only talk about it in a RPCV tree somewhere. Someone here in the forum called it a "fetish", my wife would call it "obsessive cumpulsion", and I call it "meaningful to me". I wouldn't want everyone to put the work into the study that I have, but I am pleased, my friends, that you have gotten used to the idea. If you are in strong agreement with some of my capitalization, tell the NASB of your reasons for the capitalization or lack thereof. But again, we have to personalize and interpret scripture for ourselves and know Him better and better. Later, Ray | ||||||
10 | clear conscience | 1 Tim 3:2 | kalos | 7237 | ||
Ray: You know what I would call it? I, too, would call it something that is meaningful to you. You have as much right to post your thoughts concerning capitalization as others have of carrying on their ceaseless, endless, eternal, limitless, confused and confusing, boring quarrels over secondary or even tertiary issues. (Note: "secondary" does not mean "trivial." I've never used the word secondary as a synonym for trivial.) We've all seen it: quarrels over the placement of a comma or an italicized word or a definition. Give us a break, people. Picking apart every jot and tittle of another's posting demonstrates neither scholarship nor Christian charity (agape). (I don't mean you, Ray. I sincerely don't. I am speaking of posters in general, but not all.) Moreover, I view an interest in capitalization as being a harmless pursuit, one that is a welcome relief from the bitterness and intensity of some of the debates held in a Forum that was never intended to be a discussion group (see Lockman Foundation's Terms of Use). You write: "...but I am pleased, my friends, that you have gotten used to the idea [of capitalizaton]." From reading your many postings, I have become so accustomed to the idea that if I so much as make a typographical error in which I leave out a capital letter, I feel guilty. :-) You are to be commended for maintaing a spirit of gentleness, humility and good cheer in your postings. Keep up the good work. :-) JVH0212 |
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