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1 | once saved, always saved? | Col 1:13 | Reformer Joe | 75873 | ||
'This reasoning avoids the central issue. The question is not whether a child can be "unborn" but whether it can sicken and die.' But most advocates of the loss of salvation argue that one theoretically can be born again hundreds of of times during one's physical lifetime. I see no substantive biblical support that one can keep losing their salvation and keep getting it back again. The Hebrews passages that are often cited mitigate against this idea: "For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and THE FURY OF A FIRE WHICH WILL CONSUME THE ADVERSARIES. Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace?" --Hebrews 10:26-29 --Joe! |
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2 | once saved, always saved? | Col 1:13 | Cyclist | 75889 | ||
Joe, I will sing of the mercies of the Lord forever! I will sing a song of praise in my heart and in my mind to Lord my God the day long! I will sing of His mercy! I will sing of His grace! I will of His loving kindness! Praise be to the Lord our God! Until now I have been able to keep myself from posting on this subjuct because I have seen it come up at least six times in my first year as an active member. Just wanted to add a few scriptures and a little opinion. This is not directed at you or anyone else, just intended to add to the discussion. Rom 11:16 If the first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and if the root is holy, the branches are too. Rom 11:17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, Rom 11:18 do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you. Rom 11:19 You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in." Rom 11:20 Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear; Rom 11:21 for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either. Rom 11:22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God's kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off. Rom 11:23 And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. Rom 11:24 For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree? This scripture tells me that we can be cut off, but, as the formerly children of promise when we accepted Christ, He is able to graft us back in again. 2 Chr 7:14 and My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land. Here is one passage I really like because when we do fail, many, including satan (I refuse to capitalize the first letter of his name, sorry Ray), develope a "hog" nature (If a one hog has a blemish or an illness all the others nip at it and bite at it to torment it to death.), there are those, I know from experience that backbite the one who failed instead of loving them back into the family of God. Ps 3:1 O LORD, how my adversaries have increased! Many are rising up against me. Ps 3:2 Many are saying of my soul, "There is no deliverance for him in God." Selah. Ps 3:3 But You, O LORD, are a shield about me, My glory, and the One who lifts my head. Ps 3:4 I was crying to the LORD with my voice, And He answered me from His holy mountain. Selah. Sorry Joe, I believe I got a little carried away and that is why I have refrain from posting on this until now. Always your brother in Christ Jesus our Lord, Cyclist (David) I will bless the Lord at all times! His praise shall continually be in my mouth! |
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3 | once saved, always saved? | Col 1:13 | Reformer Joe | 75893 | ||
Thanks for speaking out. Have you already been here a year? Time sure does fly, doesn't it? :) In Romans 11, Paul is in the middle of talking about why the Jews rejecting the Messiah does not mean that the promises of God to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Moses have failed (see verse 11:1). In other words, how can the Jews be God's chosen people if so many of them were rejecting the One who would be getting them to heaven? If the passage is talking about losing one's salvation, one would have to explain how these Jews, who never received Christ in the first place, were ever saved. Paul is more likely (in my understanding) talking about being cut off from God's covenant people, the community of the redeemed. For a time, the majority of people in the New Covenant will be Gentiles, even though that is not a permanent situation (Romans 11:25-27). The Jews who are mentioned as being cut off in Romans 11 were never believers in Jesus (i.e. never saved), and in order for Gentiles in general to continue in the midst of the covenant people of God, they too must keep the terms of the covenant (i.e. demonstrate their faith by faithful obedience). The evidence of one's justification is sanctification. The former no one but God can see for sure, but the latter is put on display for the world. --Joe! |
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4 | once saved, always saved? | Col 1:13 | Cyclist | 75936 | ||
Joe, Blessed be the spotless lamb of God who is Christ Jesus our Savior and Lord who thought not of His own life but gave His life for our sins; to whom all power has been given in heaven and earth! Praise be to Jesus! Thanks for the reply Joe. I just couldn't resist putting in my 2 cents. I will exit the discussion now though. It's not a "hit and run", honest! SUNSTAR (the one who started this thread), If you are still out there. Blessings to you in the name of Jesus Christ! Always your brother in Christ Joe, Cyclist (David) I will bless the Lord at all times! His praise shall continually be in my mouth! |
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