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1 | What sort of oil? | Deut 33:24 | wilmap | 158070 | ||
Did anyone watch the national news last night? This verse was quoted by a "born again" representative of the Zion Oil company. Having just been awarded the "Asher Permit" by the Israeli government, he said this verse provides proof that enough oil to eliminate the country's dependence on foreign oil is present in this region. But is crude oil what is spoken of here? Prior to entry into Canaan, Moses’ prophetic blessing again predicted a prosperous portion for Asher. The tribe was figuratively to ‘dip its foot in oil.’ (De 33:24, 25; compare Job 29:6.) Their allotment of territory stretched along the Mediterranean coastal plains from below the town of Dor, S of Mount Carmel, on up to the N boundary of Palestine at Sidon. (Jos 17:7-11; 19:24-31) This included some of the most fertile land in all Israel, where olive trees would provide abundant oil, while other fruits would provide dainties fit to grace a royal table. (Ge 49:20; De 33:24) When olive oil can be used to fuel cars, I suppose this verse could fulfill this person's goal. With this fundamental misunderstanding, I wonder if they're even going to drill in the correct area? Let's not even get into whether or not the fleshly nation of Israel is still God's chosen people. |
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2 | What sort of oil? | Deut 33:24 | mark d seyler | 158071 | ||
Jer 31:35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name: 36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever. 37 Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD. Can this be more plain? Love in Christ, Mark |
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3 | What sort of oil? | Deut 33:24 | wilmap | 158076 | ||
Mark: Guess I should have left that last comment out, since I'm sure this topic has been beat to death on this forum. But you can't help but wonder, when someone spends millions of donated money from others that have made the same basic mistake of interpretation, whether more widely believed "truths" are unfounded in Scripture. The "Religion" section of the Atlanta Journal and Constitution (January 22, 1983, p. 5-B) reported: "Contrary to the churches’ centuries-old teachings that God had ‘cast off his people Israel’ and replaced them with a ‘new Israel,’ he [Paul M. Van Buren, theologian at Temple University in Philadelphia] says churches now affirm that ‘the covenant between God and the Jewish people is eternal. This amazing reversal has been made by Protestants and Catholics, on both sides of the Atlantic.’" The New York Times (February 6, 1983, p. 42) added: "‘There is a fascination on the part of the evangelical right with Israel and a belief that everything Israel does must be supported, because God is on Israel’s side,’ said Timothy Smith, a professor of theology at Johns Hopkins University and a Wesleyan evangelical." If the Jews, who say they are under the Mosaic Law, were today in Jerusalem as God’s chosen people, would not the temple devoted to his worship have been rebuilt? Matt. 21:42, 43: "Jesus said to them, "Have you never read in the Scriptures: " 'The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone; the Lord has done this, and it is marvelous in our eyes'? Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit." Does God’s covenant with Abraham give assurance that the Jews continue to be the chosen people of God? Gal. 3:27-29: "for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 9If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." So, from God’s standpoint, it is no longer natural descent from Abraham that determines who are Abraham’s seed. I don't expect to change your mind on this, but please understand that anyone that believes that Christians are the "new creation" and the "Israel of God," would not be the first. Among whom do the prophecies about restoration of Israel have fulfillment today? Gal. 6:15, 16: "Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is a new creation. Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule, even to the Israel of God." So "the Israel of God" is no longer determined on the basis of conforming to the requirement laid upon Abraham for all the males of his household to be circumcised. Rather, as stated at Galatians 3:26-29, those who belong to Christ and who are spirit-begotten sons of God "are really Abraham’s seed." Jer. 31:31: "‘Look! There are days coming,’ is the utterance of Jehovah, ‘and I will conclude with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant." God has not lied, and the Scriptures have been fulfilled, including the fact that the majority of all mankind (that includes Jews) will choose the "wide and spacious road leading to destruction." I'll hold this position until the unfolding of future events, including Armageddon, makes the truth plain. Wilma |
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4 | What sort of oil? | Deut 33:24 | kalos | 158078 | ||
"Hath God cast away his people?" I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. Rom 11:1 ____________________ "That the Christian now inherits the distinctive Jewish promises is not taught in Scripture." ____________________ 'That Israel has not been forever set aside is the theme of this chapter (Romans 11). '(1) The salvation of Paul proves that there is still a remnant (Romans 11:1 ) '(2) The doctrine of the remnant proves it (Romans 11:2-6). '(3) The present national unbelief was foreseen (Romans 11:7-10). '(4) Israel's unbelief is the Gentile opportunity (Romans 11:11-25). '(5) Israel is judicially broken off from the good olive tree, Christ (Romans 11:17-22 ). '(6) They are to be grafted in again (Romans 11:23,24). '(7) The promised Deliverer will come out of Zion and the nation will be saved (Romans 11:25-29). That the Christian now inherits the distinctive Jewish promises is not taught in Scripture. The Christian is of the heavenly seed of Abraham ; (Genesis 15:5,6 ; Galatians 3:29) and partakes of the spiritual blessings of the Abrahamic Covenant. '...but Israel as a nation always has it own place, and is yet to have its greatest exaltation as the earthly people of God...(Genesis 12:2 ; Romans 11:26 "Kingdom"; Genesis 1:26-28 ; Zechariah 12:8).' ____________________ http://bible.crosswalk.com/Commentaries/ * * * * * * * * * * * * * For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. 2 Tim 4:3a NIV |
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5 | What sort of oil? | Deut 33:24 | wilmap | 158093 | ||
Whatever "scholar" you're quoting is not acquainted with "the pattern of sound teaching" that Paul reflected. Read Hebrews chapter 11. Were Abel, Enoch and Noah Jews? Why did Paul include these among faithful Jews like Abraham, Isaac and Moses, all of whom would not be 'made perfect apart from Christians'? I will comment on Romans 11:23,24. Notice in the context of verses preceding it Paul uses that ever important word "if." That is, "if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again." But we don't want to get into a "once saved, yaddah, yaddah, yaddah" discussion, do we? Let's don't be like those "in the last days" that are always "learning but never able to acknowledge the truth." (2 Tim 3:7) Wilma |
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6 | What sort of oil? | Deut 33:24 | Hank | 158096 | ||
Wilma: What's wrong with "Once saved, yaddah, yaddah, yaddah"? I've always liked it. It's one of the catchiest tunes the Beatles ever wrote. --Hank | ||||||
7 | What sort of oil? | Deut 33:24 | CDBJ | 158097 | ||
Hi Hank, Since you are up and burning the midnight oil; is it animal, vegetable, or mineral? CDBJ |
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8 | What sort of oil? | Deut 33:24 | Hank | 158098 | ||
CDBJ, Oil's well that ends well. --Hank | ||||||