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1 | A fresh mental and spiritual attitude? | Eph 4:23 | Ray | 150017 | ||
Hi Mark, Spirit or Holy Spirit, no matter, we know that the words speak of Deity. Although we know the Scriptures speak of Spirit of God and Spirit of Jesus, and His (h)Holy (s)Spirit, so it is difficult to know the mingling of these words concerning God. 1) Many of the passages that speak of being filled with the holy spirit have information in them about the word of God being heard, or the gospel preached, etc. In the Acts 2 passage the people who were filled with the holy spirit were "speaking of the mighty deeds of God." Verse 11. And they, being full of this knowledge of the mighty deeds of God, were speaking in tongues as the Spirit was giving them ability to speak out. So I see them "filled with the holy spirit" and the [Holy] Spirit giving them [ability] to speak out those words. 2) We also have the rushing wind and fire which suggests the baptism of fire and the moving of the spirit where it will as in John 3. The Teacher uses words to teach; and people who are born from above believe the Scriptures, and the word which Jesus had spoken. See John 2:22. "When therefore He was raised from the dead, His disciples remembered that He said this, and they believed the Scriptures, and the word which Jesus had spoken." 3) The closest I can come right now to a basic definition of what I mean when I say "[holy] spirit' is expressed in John 3:34 in my interpretation of it. John 3:34, "For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God; for He gives the *spirit without measure. 35 The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into His hand." All things, are the words of God, and holy spirit to my mind. From the heart, Ray |
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2 | A fresh mental and spiritual attitude? | Eph 4:23 | mark d seyler | 150063 | ||
Hi Ray, So if I understand you correctly, the "holy spirit" is the "words of God, and knowledge of the works of God", or "the sayings and doings of God". But where in the text do we find this meaning? Can you offer me even one verse that shows this meaning, in the words that it contains? Or a group of verses that demonstrate this interpretation, by the words they use? When the Holy Spirit fills someone, they often then speak the Word of God with boldness, but this is what I expect, because this is what Jesus said. John 14:26 but the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He shall teach you all things and shall remind you of all things that I said to you. I treat the meaning of terms used in the Scripture consistently unless I find a textual basis to do otherwise, and I just do not see any textual basis to interpret the words "Holy Spirit" as anything other that One Person of the Triune God. You wrote: "So I see them "filled with the holy spirit" and the [Holy] Spirit giving them [ability] to speak out those words." How or where does the Bible give us the permission to see the first reference of "spirit" in this verse as an impersonal force, and the second reference as a Person? I sense a good spirit in you, Ray, and I do not mean any of this in an unkind way, I just do not see this interpretation contained in the scriptures. Love in Christ, Mark |
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