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1 | Why do I want to speak in tongues? | 1 Cor 13:1 | flyman172 | 212370 | ||
Hello BradK and AZURE, As you probably have surmised by now I examine everything from a logical point of view. Azure has presented 1 Cor 12:1-11, where basically Paul reveals that the Holy Spirit distributes the gifts variously to each individually, just as He wills. Brad has asked how would I deal with 1 Cor 12:30, where Paul reemphasizes that not all will have every gift. The context of Paul's message from a logical standpoint is, for those who believe, one will be given the gifts of healing (v-9), to another miraculous powers, the gifts of prophecy, distinguishing between spirits and speaking in tongues (v-10), all according the the will of God. In connecting these passages to what Jesus spoke in Mark 16:16-18, it would appear that Paul is contradicting Jesus. Jesus, who made it clear that His words are not His but the Father's in heaven, proclaimed those who BELIEVE and are baptised will be saved and they will be able to cast out devils, speak with new tongues, take up serpents, drink poisons and not be hurt, and heal the sick. Jesus made no qualifying statement that some will and some won't, He said these are the signs that will accompany those who believe. Now if there is a contradiction who do you think is overruled? Jesus Christ, Son of God, or Paul, once known as Saul of Tarsus? In defense of the churches who believe that speaking tongues is a sign of being saved, how can anyone say they are wrong? The point I am trying to make is, are we as Christians true believers? Jesus says all who believe and are baptized will be blessed with wonderous works, but Paul says only some will receive the gifts of healing, effecting miracles, distinguishing spirits and speaking in tongues. Worst case scenario, whether you believe Jesus or Paul, there should be baptized believers SOMEWHERE performing these wonderous gifts. Are we just Christians in name only? Are we just Christians blowing smoke? Why do we ignore John 14:24, "He who does not love Me does not keep my words..." Why are we not accepting these words of Jesus? Here are some ignored by most of us, if not all: Matthew 5:38-44 - Resist no evil, turn the other cheek, if a man sues you, give him more, go the extra mile, if someone wants to borrow from you do not turn him away, love your enemies, bless them, do good to them and pray for them that persecute you. Matt 19:21, Luke 12:33, 18:22 - Jesus said that in order to inherit eternal life, you must sell everything you have, give to the poor then follow him. Mark 10:29-30, - Jesus said that anyone who gives up everything he owns for the sake of the gospel will receive a hundred times more than what he gave up, now in this time and in the world to come. Luke 6:30 - If a man steals from you don't expect it back. Luke 14:26 - To be a disciple of Christ you must hate your family, even your own life. Luke 14:33 - He said whoever does not give up all that he owns cannot be his disciple. It seems that we are obsessed with trying to rationalize away the obvious meanings claiming context, context and then context. Where is our faith that only needs to be as much as a fraction the size of a mustard seed? There are stories of faith that proove God is there for us but we still don't fully believe. God commanding Abraham to sacrifice his son Issac. Shadrach, Mishach and Abendego could easily have made an excuse, rationalized away their beliefs and avoided the fiery furnace. Job could have easily taken the easy way out and skipped all that misery and suffering. They didn't waiver, they believed and God fulfilled His promise and rewarded their faith. Remaining on the topic of this tread, it is easy to see why their is virtually no evidence of true believers. God Bless us all, flyman |
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2 | Why do I want to speak in tongues? | 1 Cor 13:1 | BradK | 212372 | ||
Hello flyman, Might I ask what leads you to make such a broad statement that, "Remaining on the topic of this tread, it is easy to see why their is virtually no evidence of true believers"? I find that rash and extremely assumptive to say the least! You made the statements, I'm simply asking questions and trying determine what leads you to the conclusions you've made. Scripture cannot contradict itself, nor does Paul contradict Jesus! All Scripture is equally inspired. The words of Jesus do not supercede or "overrule" the words of Paul. To infer this is error. I'm not sure where you arrive at this notion? Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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3 | Why do I want to speak in tongues? | 1 Cor 13:1 | flyman172 | 212376 | ||
Dear Brad, Do you know of any Christian who truly believes Matthew 5:38-44 - Resist no evil, turn the other cheek, if a man sues you, give him more, go the extra mile, if someone wants to borrow from you do not turn him away, love your enemies, bless them, do good to them and pray for them that persecute you? If you could then maybe, just maybe, we could find a true believer enjoying the signs and gifts promised. flyman |
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4 | Why do I want to speak in tongues? | 1 Cor 13:1 | BradK | 212388 | ||
Dear flyman, Since you appear to already have the answer, why don't you just tell me! I've strong doubts about how serious you are with really "...knowing him intimately." wiht the help of this forum, because you've certainly lost me (Rom. 12:18) You're alienating fellow believers here on the SBF! Your responses are coming across as divise and self-serving. Have a Merry CHRISTmas! BradK |
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