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1 | Creating converts to Islam? | 1 Cor 1:12 | Brian.g | 33212 | ||
Joe, Our unity is in the Trinity and all it represents. Looking to Paul and Peter, or more specifically Jerusalem and Paul, as justification for disharmony among Christians is wrong. The Gospel defines our responsibility to build up the Church of Christ, not to attack any part of it. Luke 9: 46-48 An argument arose among the disciples about which of them was the greatest. Jesus realized the intention of their hearts and took a child and placed it by his side and said to them, "Whoever receives this child in my name receives me, and whoever receives me receives the one who sent me. For the one who is least among all of you is the one who is the greatest (Luke 9:49-50) Then John said in reply, "Master, we saw someone casting out demons in your name and we tried to prevent him because he does not follow in our company." Jesus said to him, "Do not prevent him, for whoever is not against you is for you." Creating disharmony among Christians only serves our own egos, not Christ. By diminishing another Christian’s efforts, we are chancing the loss of a soul to seek God in a non-Christian light. That soul is not ours to loose. It is not the proper way to serve God. Brian |
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2 | Creating converts to Islam? | 1 Cor 1:12 | Reformer Joe | 33217 | ||
Brian: You wrote: "Our unity is in the Trinity and all it represents." So ANY church that affirms the Trinity is a truly biblically-functioning church? "Looking to Paul and Peter, or more specifically Jerusalem and Paul, as justification for disharmony among Christians is wrong." I wasn't looking to them for justification, but rather showing that there was disagreement in the church from the very beginning. There has never been a time since the very inception of the church where there has been a lack of disagreement. Most of the church councils (such as Nicea, which gave us the formal codification of the Trinitarian formula) arose from disputes among teachers in the church. The epistles were largely written as defense against false teachings WITHIN the flock. Much of your own Catholic teaching relies on Trent, which was the Roman church's defense against that old "heretic," Martin Luther. Anyone who has done even the most cursory study of church history can easily affirm that there has been at least as much conflict as consensus. You quote Luke 9:49-50 in support of your view. I agree that the "company" I keep is not the only true church. However, we also must take into account passages like Matthew 7:21-23 to realize that not everyone who claims the name of Christian is indeed a Christian, despite their false claims to having done His deeds; and, by extension, every church that claims the name of a Christian church is not a Christian church. I would never diminish the efforts of a Christian church to proclaim the true gospel. It is my duty as a follower of Christ to faithfully tell others of His word, including those who are being told an incomplete or false gospel. The lowest common denominator of biblical Christianity is not simply affirming that God is One in being and Three in Person, in any case. Neither official Catholic teaching nor classical Protestant teaching would hold to that. --Joe! |
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3 | Creating converts to Islam? | 1 Cor 1:12 | Brian.g | 33220 | ||
Joe My words are very clear. Instead of using history to justify creating disharmony, I would hope that people use the Gospel to understand how to promote harmny. That is my understanding as to what pleases God. Brian |
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4 | Creating converts to Islam? | 1 Cor 1:12 | Reformer Joe | 33246 | ||
Your words are not terribly clear, because this whole line of circumlocution can really be summed up in your REAL point: that Protestants shouldn't evangelize Catholics. And I will stop evangelizing Catholics when you all have the evangel right. --Joe! |
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5 | Creating converts to Islam? | 1 Cor 1:12 | Brian.g | 33251 | ||
Joe The Gospel defines our responsibility to build up the Church of Christ, not to attack any part of it. Creating disharmony among Christians only serves our own egos, not Christ. By diminishing another Christian’s efforts, we are chancing the loss of a soul to seek God in a non-Christian light. That soul is not ours to loose. It is not the proper way to serve God. And with that, I think this discussion should be over. Brian |
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6 | Creating converts to Islam? | 1 Cor 1:12 | Reformer Joe | 33297 | ||
Brian: You wrote: "It is not the proper way to serve God." Tell that to the student at my school who has grown up a stranger to Christ in a nominally Catholic environment but came to embrace Christ rather than the church of Rome on Saturday. If the RCC and its magisterium actually didn't raise individuals to be complete strangers to Christ, then maybe your argument would hold some water. Fact is, just like my mother-in-law did several decades ago, this student has found eternal life apart from the local Catholic parish and not within it. Hence the need for a Reformation... --Joe! |
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7 | Creating converts to Islam? | 1 Cor 1:12 | CDBJ | 33311 | ||
Joe, my wife found the truth about Jesus in spite of spending all of her years of growing up in Catholic schools and attending the Catholic church. The true church of Christ isn't an organization it is an organism and only those that have been born into God's family are genuine members. It is impossible to convince those that aren't members that they that they don't really belong, but once the Holy Spirit does his work the change is phenomenal to say the least. But this doesn't happen unless the one in question gives up everything that they are trusting in and turns to Jesus for full assurance! | ||||||