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1 | Is God in absolut contrl over all things | Acts 4:24 | Sir Pent | 61691 | ||
Clarification ............................................... Dear John, It appears that our thread has been restricted and will no longer appear on the general webpage. I suppose that is good if we are unable to come to consensus as everyone seems to believe, however, I think it would be a shame if we actually were able to resolve this issue and noone could see it. ............................................... It seems that you are a bit confused about my question, so I’ll try to explain it more clearly. Calvinists have one perspective on interpreting scripture. They read verses to say that God has absolute control which He excersizes at all times to dictate everything that happens. They believe that within the box, people actually have FREEDOM to make choices, but that those choices are completely controlled by the ABILITIES that God grants. Thus, they believe that God is supremely powerful and sovereign. ............................................... Arminians, on the other hand, interpret those same verses differently. The believe that God has the ability to absolutely control the universe, but that He chooses not to excersize that ability at all times. Instead, they believe that God has created humans in such a way that they have both the FREEDOM and ABILITY to choose whether to love God or not. However, since God is simply choosing not to excersize His ability to determine every choice, they believe that God is still supremely powerful and sovereign. ............................................... The interesting thing is that both perspectives claim that God is sovereign. Arminians generally understand that the Calvinist perspective, even if they disagree with it, leads to a belief in a soverign God. However, Calvinists generally are under the impression that Arminian perspective, even if they disagree with it, DOES NOT lead to a belief in a sovereign God. I propose that this impression is wrong, and I am asking that someone to explain, using scripture and reason, why Calvinists believe that. Not why they believe Arminianism is wrong, but why they believe that it is impossible for God to be sovereign in that perspective. ............................................... Thus far, I have found you to be a person who is well educated in the doctrines of Calvinism, with a firm grasp of scripture, and the rare ability to at least begin to understand Arminianism, even though you don’t agree with it. Therefore, I hope that if anyone would be able to answer this question, you might be the one to do it. Out of respect for some of my other colleagues here at the forum, I should mention that I there are others such as Reformer Joe who could fit this description. |
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2 | Is God in absolut contrl over all things | Acts 4:24 | John Reformed | 62739 | ||
SIDE NOTE If man is rhe final arbiter of his ultimate fate, it must by neccesity follow that some have a natural inclination toward God (some spark of decency, virtue, or moral good) that others do not have. Am I wrong? John |
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3 | Is God in absolut contrl over all things | Acts 4:24 | Sir Pent | 62824 | ||
Can we table this? .......................................... Dear John, This is an interesting question, and opens up yet another can of worms into this whole thought process. How about if we wait until we have some sort of conclusion to our current questions before we delve into this new one? .......................................... P.S. Thank you for your thorough response to my second point. I will try to post my thoughts a little later today. Meanwhile, I’m still waiting for your response to my most recent clarification of my first point (post #62622). Also, I am still waiting for your response to my third point, made many days ago (post #62529). |
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4 | Is God in absolut contrl over all things | Acts 4:24 | John Reformed | 62825 | ||
Dear Sir Pent, Being somewhat pressed for time, I would prefer to address one point at a time as well. I'm sure you understand. That being said I will review points 2 and 3 and will atttempt to comment on them in brief. John |
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