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1 | How to teach people to hear God's voice? | John 10:4 | JCrichton | 137459 | ||
"another metaphor." Hi, Doc! There are certain words that evoke passion from me when they are used to characterize God... metaphor and allegory are kind of on top--though they have similar meanings they are both used too frequently to discredit the Bible! You continually use metaphor in discribing God's relationship to man... I cannot be but passionate! Since you have expanded on your initial statement I am inclined to believe that you are not seeking to limit God's Authority nor the means that He chooses to communicate with humanity! I do not disagree with you about the authority of Scripture nor the that personal experience is subject to Scripture... I must add that most of the problem lies not in God communicating with us but in us not being receptive to God as the Holy Spirit was sent to be both the Guide and Comforter of the Church... to remove the Holy Spirit as an active force in the Church would be to deny Christ's own Word! (John 16:13; 17:15-23) "it drives us to our knees." ...here you misunderstand my example... there are many who believe that the only time God communicates with us is through some explosive visual effect that drops us to our knees... this is used primarily as theatrics by some to give their claims credence in the eyes of man! Bowing down to God's Authority or as a sign of respect when we seek His counsel or His companionship is an act of worship... but expecting that God will produce some pyrotechnics to provide us with indisputable proof that He is communicating with us... well... God needs no help! I appreciate your diligence in contributing to the forum... I will be praying for you... Personal note: I do not expect that all my points of arguement be replied to... I do get passionately involved in my replies when I feel that much is being left unsaid, when a reply seems to glaze over the query or when certain sound bites are introduced... I offer my apologies for any strong replies that I may offer--I do not seek to test anyones mettle... I just seek to offer the clearest possible response when engaging a topic--even if it means sacrificing simplicity... God Bless! Angel |
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2 | How to teach people to hear God's voice? | John 10:4 | DocTrinsograce | 137485 | ||
Passion is good... :-) I've been called passionate when it comes to the things of God... Hopefully the Lord finds us appropriately passionate, and if not, may He change this in us according to His will. Clarity and simplicity are good too, by the way. :-) After further elucidation I do not find that we differ much in our theology on this topic. As an anecdote I remember a young lady coming to me once to ask if it was God's will for her to marry a Moslem. (She was a believer.) I assured her that based on the principle of 2 Corinthians 6:14, it was not God's will. She argued that her intended might become a believer, etc. Finally she said, "I know what the scripture says! I just want God to tell me Himself!" Lots of people are like that. I remember reading where Mark Twain said, "It isn't what I don't understand in the Bible that bothers me... its what I do understand that bothers me!" If we don't like the answer we find in scripture, somehow we think we can find a loop hole somewhere. I've been that way myself, I'm afraid. :-( Thank you for your posts, Angel. In Him, Doc |
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3 | How to teach people to hear God's voice? | John 10:4 | JCrichton | 137541 | ||
"After further elucidation I do not find that we differ much in our theology on this topic." Hi, Doc! I concur! Also, I believe that much of our arguments (Christian variation in Scriptural views) is due to vocabulary--we term the same theologies in different words which, as free agents, are open for interpretation: many times the thought being conveyed is not received because the receptors' vocabulary is different... "I just want God to tell me Himself!" The person you alluded to is a clear example of vocabulary/language gone wrong... once made aware of Scripture (though I would have quoted to verse 17)--which is the Word of God, and the Word being Spirit and Life it was God Speaking to her... she was stubbornly unreceptive because her '"I know what the scripture says! I just want God to tell me Himself!"' denied that God was Speaking to her through you by the Power of His Word! She desired something and would not listen to Scripture that told her that she was misguided (James 4:1-10) because she wanted God to tell her what she wanted to hear! All communication, specially with God, has a serious drawback: COMMUNICATION IS A TWO-WAY STREET! We often come to God not truly seeking His Wisdom and Will, but predisposed to our obsessions! James was very succinct about this: "When you do pray and do not receive, it is because you prayed wrongly, wanting to indulge in your passions." "If we don't like the answer we find in scripture, somehow we think we can find a loop hole somewhere." Sadly, it goes even beyond that... we attempt to use Scripture to create loopholes! God Bless! Angel |
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