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1 | Islamic View of Crucifixion? | John 1:4 | Taleb | 98990 | ||
The "Crusades" predate Islam. The book of Judges predates Christ. How far back must one go to recognize that the world is the same as it was all of the yesterdays. Men have always done what it right in their own eyes. It is and always has been brutal. In my lifetime, and I will admit it has been a long one, we have fought war after war after war after war after war after war. Some people kill people in the "Name of Freedom." Some kill people in the name of “God”. What do we call what the Israelites did to Christians who opened their arms, and homes to a ravaged people before they "became a nation"? Most of those thousands slaughtered were Palestinian Christians. Women were raped. Children were butchered and bulldozed over. And, less we forget, that refugee camp in Lebanon. I served in the U.S. Navy years ago. Remember when Israel attacked the United States in June 1967? So do the widows of the U.S.S. Libery. Your statement, “most part a ture Muslim is taught you either convert to Islam or you should die” makes me ask - how is it that for centuries Muslim and Christians lived side by side with the Jews – until Israel stormed in? They even fought side by side numerous times. But most importantly it reminds me of Jesus’ command - “Love your enemies”. Every Muslim that I know has only been won to Christ the same way I was won. Someone loved on me with unconditional love. I don’t “tolerate” killing people – I just tolerate all people. Blessings, Taleb |
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2 | Islamic View of Crucifixion? | John 1:4 | DarcyA | 99016 | ||
...The book of Judges predates Christ. ????? Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am. Can love Muslims and hate Islam. What Israel did does, or going to do we have to remember one thing. Israel is the apple of God's eye. Those who bless Israel will be blessed Those who curse Israel will be cursed. (Gen 27:29; Zec 2:8) Also you must remember Jesus Christ is a Jew he is the Lion of Judah who will reign down judgment on those who curse Israel. (Matt 25) Also it is the Jews who wrote the majority of the Bible all but Luke. Your arguement is frutile due to the fact that your are contradicting Scripture. |
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3 | Islamic View of Crucifixion? | John 1:4 | Taleb | 99050 | ||
Darcy, please understand that I am not contradicting Scripture. Rather I understand what Scripture says about Israel and IT'S NOT what too many study Bible’s foot-notes say under some verses by overlooking the rest of Scripture. What DOES Scripture ACTUALLY say about the “blessing” you referred to? That “Blessing” first showed up in Genesis 12:2-3. In Genesis 17 NOTE the conditions about God “letting in those not of Abraham’s seed”. Can you think of any “who are not directly of Abraham’s seed, that call themselves “Jews”? Check out Genesis 9:27 and you will discover a clue. God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in Shem’s tent. Note one descendant of Japheth in Gen. 10:3 was Ashkenaz. Now, Darcy, tell me where you think the MAJORITY of the present day rulers of Israel claim as they descended from. Yup. Every reputable Jewish Encyclopedia, (written by Jews for Jews) will declare the same truth. One such Encyclopedia quotes it this way, “Ashkenez – a people traced back (Gen 10:3 1 Chron 1:6) through Gomer to Noah’s third son, Jaheth.” Members of MY OWN personal family claim this is the reason they are Jews. I desperately love my family, I long for them to experience ALL that Christ has purchased for them too. They are “converts to Judiasm". Now IF the apple of God’s eye includes anyone “born” Jewish PLUS any converts than Liz Taylor and Saammy Davis Jr. are exactly that. They became as much a convert as the "origin" of the vast majority of today’s Israel. Notice what Jesus said to His “fellow Jews” in John 8:37:. “I KNOW YOU ARE descendants from Abraham.” BUT THEN JESUS said to those same Jews (Verse 39b) “IF YOU WERE Abraham’s children, you would do as Abraham did.” Verse 44 “YOU ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL.” (I wonder if this statement ties in with John's in Revelation 2:9 "...those who claim to be Jews when they are so, but only a synagogue of Satan.") Paul reiterates this eternal truth in throughout many of his epistles. Looking at the Galatians 3 should suffice, because it brings us back to where it all started. Verse 8 says, “So you see, the REAL descendants of Abraham are the men of faith. The WHOLE chapter, actually the whole book, pinpoints the essence of this discussion. Verse 16 - “Now the promises were made to Abraham and his seed. It DOES NOT SAY to your seeds, in the plural, but in the singular, “and to your SEED, that is Christ.” Verse 26- 28 “For in Christ Jesus YOU ARE ALL sons of God through faith. ….There is NO ROOM for Jew etc. for in union with Christ Jesus your are all one. Verse 29 “And IF you belong to Christ, then YOU are TRUE descendents of Abraham …’ There is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO many verses in the NEW Testament that cancel the OLD's concept of Israel. Blessings to you – Taleb |
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4 | Islamic View of Crucifixion? | John 1:4 | DarcyA | 99096 | ||
...What DOES Scripture ACTUALLY say about the “blessing” you referred to? That “Blessing” first showed up in Genesis 12:2-3. Don't quite understand what you are asking here. The belessing is not my "main concern" Its the cursing. Curse Israel and you will be cursed. ...Notice what Jesus said to His “fellow Jews” in John 8:37:. “I KNOW YOU ARE descendants from Abraham.” BUT THEN JESUS said to those same Jews (Verse 39b) “IF YOU WERE Abraham’s children, you would do as Abraham did.” Verse 44 “YOU ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL.” (I wonder if this statement ties in with John's in Revelation 2:9 "...those who claim to be Jews when they are so, but only a synagogue of Satan.") Do you know the Context of why Jesus said this? Jesus is talking about the faith Abraham had which the Jewish people did not. (John 8:56 cf. Luke 13:16) ...Verse 26- 28 “For in Christ Jesus YOU ARE ALL sons of God through faith. ….There is NO ROOM for Jew etc. for in union with Christ Jesus your are all one. Verse 29 “And IF you belong to Christ, then YOU are TRUE descendents of Abraham … Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one IN CHRIST JESUS. (emp. added) Note it says in Jesus Christ...What about those not in Jesus Christ. Israel as a whole (nation) is still in the Old Covenant because they rejected Jesus as Messiah. Israel is not promised heaven as the Church is. And we are not promised the land of Cannan as Israel is and an eternal kingdom on earth. (I can prove this if disputed) But we also learn in Romans 11 that God will save Israel. (Rom 11:26) You seem to be putting the church into Israel and Israel into the church. This is know as the day of the Gentiles, or as alot of Christians refer to as the day of grace. But God will turn back to Israel (Dan 9) ....There is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO many verses in the NEW Testament that cancel the OLD's concept of Israel. This is false. Lets look at the new testament as it is. Most of the books are written to churches in the new testement or to the Gentiles. Except for Matthew and to a lesser extent Revelation. If you go back to the OT you will see the plan with Israel is not yet complete. It is also a good thing to know to prove this point that Israel is God's wife. (Isa 54:5) The church is the bride or Christ (Not yet Jesus' wife until the Marriage Supper in Revelation) This post is no where complete. I'll post more on the subject. But here are a few things to think about. The Islam is not Israel, The Church is not Israel. I know the bombings ect by Muslims are doing what Mohammad tought and did. I know it is what Satan whats to destry Christians and Israel. Allah IS Satan. Muslims have always killed each other. What Saddam did is nothing new. You might have notice they do not want freedom it is a sin to them to be be free like that. They are tought to live and die by the sword. The muslims killing Christians and Jews are Fundemental Muslims and not Radical. The Children are being tought Hatred this is what the know and how they are raised they are not raised like Americain children or western children. They will feel their Judgment as the Bible states. (As a whole). I think it is great that you are reaching Muslims but I do feel you are gravely mistaken when you call the terrorist Radical. I believe to teach the Truth you must speak the truth these people are lost under the control of Satan and demons Mohammad was demon processed and lived by Hatred he clearly lived by the sword. A true muslim will kill you if you do not convert. It has been proven in the past in their teaching and will be proven in the future. And to teach its okay to hate Jews and be saved is a far thing from the truth. Jesus is the Lion of Judah. I am also sure you have read the other book the Muslims have (Can't think of the name) That mentions Jesus coming back and killing all the Jews and him claiming he lied and he is not the Son of God. You cannot turn a blind eye to that and say its okay. Jihad is real! Its not Radical. The burning of flags the killing of Jews, the killing of Christians is what they are tought and know. The hatred stems all the way back to Genesis the good news is it ends in Revelation. Preach the Gospel to them but don't mislead people by saying Radical. P.S. the parts of your post I skipped over I will post on them. |
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