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1 | IS LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN A PARABLE | Luke 16:19 | kalos | 156710 | ||
SBoone: In the parable in Luke 16:1-9, what false DOCTRINE is Jesus using to teach a truth? In your example of using "a story of the sun showing mercy", the teaching that the sun [or sun god] consciously punishes people or shows mercy to them IS a FALSE teaching. It is not literally true. In the NASB Acts 17:23 says: "For while I was passing through and examining the objects of your worship, I also found an altar with this inscription, 'TO AN UNKNOWN GOD.' Therefore what you worship in ignorance, this I proclaim to you. In this verse, what FALSE TEACHING is Paul using? Isn't it a fact that he "found an altar with this inscription, 'TO AN UNKNOWN GOD'"? Isn't it a fact that they worshipped in ignorance? Isn't it also a fact that Paul proclaimed to them He Whom they thought of as "AN UNKNOWN GOD?" The same verse in the NLT reads: "You have been worshiping him without knowing who he is, and now I wish to tell you about him." Did not Paul tell them about the God whom they had been worshiping without knowing who he is? So again, what false teaching is Paul using in the passage in Acts? He isn't using a false teaching; he is pointing out their error to them. How can he teach them about something without mentioning what it is he's talking about? Grace to you, Kalos * * * * * * * * * * * * * For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. 2 Tim 4:3a NIV |
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2 | IS LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN A PARABLE | Luke 16:19 | SBoone | 156711 | ||
Kalos, In Luke 16:1-9 is it not a false doctrine that we should "rob" others in order to benefit ourselves? Is this not what the man did. He squandered his masters goods, and then he further cheated his master by discounting debts in order to protect his own future. Jesus then teaches that this was being faithful. Neither of us would then teach that we should use others to their loss and our gain. Rather we point to the point of the parable that Christ asks us to be faithful in the smallest areas and then more will be given us. I believe Paul was not saying this believing that they had been mistakenly worshiping the true God. I believe that he knew this to be another minor alter to yet another pagan god. He took advantage of their "ignorance" about one of their gods to teach an eternal truth. The false doctrine was worshiping the pagan god which the alter represented. Paul was not teaching false doctrine. He taught true doctine by using something others were treating in a false way. That being said. If you are correct that their worship of this unknown god was actually the worship of the Living God. Then it does nothing for my point. However the Luke 16:1-9 still illustrates my point. Thank you for your answer. |
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3 | IS LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN A PARABLE | Luke 16:19 | Morant61 | 156713 | ||
Greetings Sboone! If I may interject, there are several problems with your use of Luke 16:1-9. First of all, Jesus never said that the dishonest manager was being 'faithful'. Secondly, the details of the parable are not 'false', simply negative. Thirdly, we are not commanded to 'rob' others in the parable. We are given instruction about the use of worldy wealth. I would find in inconceivable that God would state something as fact that is not true (Lazarus and the rich man is never called a parable in Scripture) to teach some spiritual truth. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | IS LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN A PARABLE | Luke 16:19 | SBoone | 156732 | ||
Hi Tim, Thanks for you comments. You make good points. It is using a negative to teach a principle. In my mind it still helps explain the Rich man and Lazarus story that follows. I believe that scripture never contradicts itself, and there are some texts that I can't reconcile to this story. Death is equivalent to a sleep Job 14:12,21 John 11:11-14 1 Thes 4:13-15 Matt 9:24 Along with many OT references to Kings sleeping when dead. Ps 146:4 "His spirit departs, he returns to the earth; In that very day his thoughts perish." In Gen 2:7 we are told that dust plus God's Breath equals a living being. In Eccl 12:7 we are told that death equals dust minus breath. Note - see margin note 1 on eccl 12:7. In Dan 12:2 says we sleep until the resurrection. Dan 12:13 says that Daniel was to enter into rest and rise again for his allotted portion at the end of the age. You must assume he is not receiving his allotted portion now. Is 57:1,2 Says the dead rest in their beds. Gen 3:17-19 God tells Adam that you are dust and to dust you shall return. Not your body but "you". Ps 115:17 "The dead do not praise the Lord". If they are in heaven why do they not praise the Lord? They will praise the Lord when they are awaken from their sleep. John 7:34 Jesus tells the disciples that where He goes they can not come. He must come back to get us. John 14:3 tells us that Christ left, but will come again to receive us to Himself, "THAT WHERE I AM, THERE YOU MAY BE ALSO". In context of these verses I can not believe that would God contidicts Himself in Luke 16. If the dead are asleep then the story of the Rich Man and Lazarus must have been a parable, or it was a glimps into the future when the wicked would be finally destroyed in hell. There are many other verses, but these give the basis of my thoughts. I know you don't share this view, and I do not mean to belittle yours or anyone else's views. I truly respect the comments that I have read on this board, and have found so much guidance. I simply share what my studies have lead me to believe. Your's in Christ |
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5 | IS LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN A PARABLE | Luke 16:19 | kalos | 156772 | ||
Yes, and if the dead are not asleep, then the story of the Rich Man and Lazarus doesn't have to be a parable. What does the Bible say about soul sleep? 'Answer: When the Bible says a person is “sleeping†in relation to death (Luke 8:52; 1Cor 15:6), it does not mean literal “sleepâ€. Sleeping is just a way to describe death because a dead body appears to be sleeping. The Bible tells us that the instant you die, you are taken to heaven or Hell based on whether you had received Christ as your Savior or not. For believers, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord (2Cor 5:6-8; Phil 1:23). For unbelievers, death means everlasting punishment in Hell (Luke 16:22-23). The concept of “soul sleep†is not a Biblical doctrine. The moment we die, we face the judgment of God (Heb 9:27). Until the resurrection, though, there is currently a temporary heaven “Paradise†(Luke 23:43; 2Cor 12:4) and Hell “Hades†(Rev 1:18; 20:13-14). 'In a sense, a person’s body is “sleeping†while their soul is in Paradise or Hades. This body is then “awoken†and transformed into the eternal body a person will possess for eternity. These eternal bodies are what we possess for all of eternity, whether we are in heaven or Hell. Those who were in Paradise will be sent to the New Heavens and New Earth (Rev 21:1). Those who were in Hades will be thrown into the lake of fire. (Rev 20:11-15). These are the final, eternal destinations of all people - based entirely on whether a person had trusted Jesus Christ alone for the salvation of their sins.' ____________________ www.gotquestions.org/soul-sleep.html Grace to you, Kalos |
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