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1 | How do you just let GOD? | Mark 9:24 | jlhetrick | 164809 | ||
Hello needinghim, Welcome to the forum. Don’t be discouraged by the advise that this forum is not for counseling. They are right, it is not. But if we are unable to apply it to the real life issues of brothers and sisters in need then our vigorous study is of little use. What we learn should be applied, in our own lives as well as to serve others. Some have redirected you to your local church leadership. They were right to do so. But we on the forum are also the church. If we are unable to respond to a brother in need, then our study is of little value. Feel free to continue participating in this forum, there are a lot of really good bible students and teachers (some have responded to you already) and much to be gained from participating. In the future, when you are in need of direction from God’s word, post in the form of a general question being sure to ask something like, “what does the bible say about this or that”. Many are more comfortable with this type of presentation. With that said I go out on a limb to make an assumption. I’m thinking that you, having been a youth pastor, already know the answer you are looking for. It’s probably been “creeping” up in your mind all along. It’s probably something you have taught and counseled one or more youth on before. Sometimes it’s not finding the answer that we need, but rather, being obedient to what we have already been given. Phi 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ: With love, Jeff |
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2 | How do you just let GOD? | Mark 9:24 | Morant61 | 164812 | ||
Greetings Jeff! I appreciate your desire to help another, but there are valid reasons for not giving counseling over such an impersonal medium as an internet forum. Allow me to list a few. 1) We have no one of knowing if the person is being truthful. Suppose someone is just looking for justification for beating his wife, but of course he doesn't tell us that part. He might say that wives should be submissive and seek Biblical guidance for that position. Everyone would jump on the band wagon to agree with him and then he might feel justified to go ahead and beat his wife - after all, she is in the wrong biblically. :-( 2) We don't know the real issues involved in the problem. Someone may think that their problem is one thing, but it could be something else entirely. 3) Many on this forum are not qualified to give counsel on complicated issues. It is difficult enough to counsel someone is one knows the person, is able to interact with them personally, and is qualified to do so. :-) In this particular case, there are certainly some Biblical principles that could be applied fairly easily, but in many cases, the solution is not so simple. So, I hope that you understand that it is not from a lack of desire, nor a lack of ability that the majority of this forum advise individual seek face to face counsel. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | How do you just let GOD? | Mark 9:24 | jlhetrick | 164814 | ||
Hello Tim, Not sure why you posted the last response to me. As if I were encouraging the practice of “counseling” on the forum, I was not. My post was to needinghim and was intended to encourage him and not turn him away. It happens too often on the forum. As one who has spent time, money, and effort to become a professional in the field of Psychiatry, I agree with you that many do not have the skills and other qualifications to “counsel” in the context that you appear to be writing. That’s where the mark was terribly missed. Needinghim asked a question that was specifically regarding his spiritual condition, his relationship with God. Practically every regular on the forum is well capable of pointing directly to the word of God to both encourage and teach a brother or sister in this type of struggle. I will go further to say that anyone calling himself/herself a teacher of God’s word really has the responsibility to do so. I do not intend to argue or be in conflict with you over this issue, but the response you posted to me really does not present well. I follow the forum daily. Your argument that a person’s attempt to justify his behavior (arguing the wife’s call to be submissive so that he can justify his beating her) would be supported by forum members “jumping on the bandwagon” is not really a responsible argument on your part. Give yourself and the rest of us more credit here. You are a regular on the forum and you know better. We both know what would happen. The wife’s submissiveness would be taught in context of scripture to include the protective responsibilities of the husband. So no, this would not be a concern. You also write: “We don't know the real issues involved in the problem. Someone may think that their problem is one thing, but it could be something else entirely” This is a good point. That is why the untrained person should not attempt to do therapy. But it’s not a sufficient reason for not offering the word of God to address the identified problem or question. Let’s not forget that God knows the specifics and His word and the Spirit can cut through the mire. Finally, I do want to say that I did, in my post, agree with everyone’s directing needinghim to a qualified church leader. As mentioned I am educated and licensed in the field but you don’t see me attempting to do therapy on the forum. What I try to do is learn and teach the word of God. I saw needinghim’s issue and question as a sadly missed opportunity for that to take place. With sincerity and love, Jeff |
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4 | How do you just let GOD? | Mark 9:24 | Morant61 | 164816 | ||
Greetings Jeff! I apologize if I misunderstood the thrust of your post my friend. It read to me (perhaps wrongly) as a sarcastic jab at those who were unable to apply their learning to real life. Again, I apologize if I misunderstood your intent. Finally, allow me clarify my 'band wagon' comment. I did not mean to imply any negative motive on the part of those responding to the hypothetical person, nor did I mean to imply that their responses would not be Biblical. I simply meant that, not knowing the whole story, an abusive husband could use well meaning responses to justify his evil behavior - unbeknownest to the rest of us. :-( p.s. - This is a good example of the difficulty of providing counsel over the internet, as I didn't even understand the intent of your post correctly. :-) I apologize my friend! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | How do you just let GOD? | Mark 9:24 | Morant61 | 164817 | ||
Correction...................... Allow me to emend my following quote: "It read to me (perhaps wrongly) as a sarcastic jab at those who were unable to apply their learning to real life. " to: "It read to me (apparently wrongly) as a sarcastic jab at those who were unable to apply their learning to real life." 'Perhaps' reads to me as though I doubt your explanation of your intention, which I do not! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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