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1 | How Holy Is Marriage? | Matt 16:6 | always learning | 213486 | ||
Val, The Word teaches more than one thing and most of it isn’t the law. You are correct save your knowledge about homosexuality. Val, what you believe about these sinners is a broad brush. Repenting isn't the only thing one must do. You're a studied man, what comes after repentance - an instant healing? Not always! So this timid feminine person searches for fellowship and people in the likeness of Christ and what will he find? Who will hold him and let him weep if he needs to? Or is all that left to someone else? Where are the men? Hiding in fear of what they don’t understand? Ro 8:14,15 Being justified by teaching laced with leaven? I’ve been dealt the words of a hardend people who didn’t hear the Gospel as I was led to preach it. It’s not my calling to soften the hearts of the saints or to bring understanding to them about the world. This study is based on the Scripture – Mt 6:16. My words have not been those of the Pharisee or Sadducee? Rather, my words have been turned so that it’s been said more than once that I am justifying or encouraging a sin, perceived that I’m not in fellowship and woven in these assumptions that I am confused and need correction. I’ve opened my life, confessed my sin, and preached a Gospel of hope, as I was led. The reaction by some in the forum has been a lesson. always learning |
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2 | How Holy Is Marriage? | Matt 16:6 | Val | 213518 | ||
Dear Always Learning, you have been given several good posts on this topic. I stand by my first post to you. I am not understanding this last post. You stated "You are correct save your knowledge about homosexuality". Could you elaborate on this one sentence and not go into the other subjects in your post. As I have said you have been given many fine posts on this topic so we can end it there if this hits a raw nerve with you. I don't think you will find many people who will agree with you that a person is born a homosexual. I may be wrong but I don't think so. Please be aware that anytime we post anything on this forum, it is a public forum and what we post most often will be challenged. It should not be taken personally as words on a page are not the same thing as looking at a person's face and body language which has a lot to do with communication. We are aware that communication in this way is not the best so its good to not wear our feelings on our sleeves and judge others motives with this limited format. We do best to allow each other some slack. I know you are aware of the cultural battle going on for homosexual rights in marriage and the pastorate and so on so it is hard to see where a person is coming from when we talk about such a highly controversial topic as homosexuality. Sincerely, Val |
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3 | How Holy Is Marriage? | Matt 16:6 | always learning | 213575 | ||
Dear Val, "You are correct save your knowledge about homosexuality". I was born and raised in San Francisco and I’m not and never have been a homosexual. I've known and do know homosexuals because I've lived in their community, have prayed with them and have felt the pain of those we ministered to. I gave some personal history about some family members. One is of interest because I've watched him grow from an infant. I could suppose that he was given a extra dose of sinful nature, perhaps to be an example to us? Or could it be that there is something else that may be going on. As an example, I can think of Autism and as suggested before depression and diabetes. I adopted a child who is mentally retarded. The cause for his affliction has been linked to one small chromosome missing (or dead). “so it is hard to see where a person is coming from when we talk about such a highly controversial topic as homosexuality.” Without a doubt! I am so sorry that I continued with these communications. I do understand the warfare our culture is in with an enemy who tears at the fabric of this nation on many fronts. And I do understand the words written by the forum that show this forum to be filled with caring people. i.e. That I need fellowship, that I need to hear hard words and face hard truths siad in love to benefit me, to name a few. These things I write only to ask why is it these folks must turn away from and not practice “their” sin without considering our own “repetitious” sins? How am I justified in my adulterous marriage? I've offended everyone and did not mean to do so. Respectfully, always learning |
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4 | How Holy Is Marriage? | Matt 16:6 | skccab | 213580 | ||
Shalom Alway learning, I've stayed out of this conversation so far, but maybe I can clear up at least one of your questions. You asked Val (and I'm sure she'll probably give you a better answer), "These things I write only to ask why is it these folks must turn away from and not practice “their” sin without considering our own “repetitious” sins? How am I justified in my adulterous marriage?" You made a vow before God when you married the first time (or maybe you weren't a true believer at that time and maybe I'm wrong but I don't think you can make a vow before a God that you don't know...?) but this marriage was also a vow that you did make before your God Whom you know, the King of the Universe. To break this vow would certainly be sin. The two people that you are concerned about have NOT made a vow before God. Do you see the differences? Your's and your spouse's union is in harmony with His word and will and vows have been made and accepted between the three of you. The two people in question are not in a union in harmony with God's word and will, no vows have been made before God, nor accepted by Him. I, too, have had many very good friends in that kind of a union (two of my bosses from years ago were married, in their minds, to each other; I roommated with a bisexual, a homosexual and one man who had gone thru the transexual operation all at one time - that was a very interesting year to say the least!!), so to a point I can feel what you're going through. These people are so deceived, have such dark blinders on, and the rest of the world's views only tend to deepen their blindness, and it just leaves those of us who care for them hurting, and seemingly at a loss...But our God is brighter than their darkness if we will just stand our ground. Love them, love them with everything that's in you, but in loving them, you don't have to accept and approve of their lifestyle. We have to stand strong in what the Word says. If we begin making allowances in one area, pretty soon, Christians will look no different from the world. Remember, God loves the homosexuals, not the homosexuality, the sinner but not the sin. Just like a heterosexual single person must live a celibate life - so must a homosexual live a celibate life (if they believe they cannot change - and that's something I won't dispute, I don't think anyone scientifically can). Sorry I couldn't help further, but from what I understand of your situation personally, you are not living in sin with your new spouse. Cheri |
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