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1 | is the seed non-human? | Dan 2:43 | Reighnskye | 133497 | ||
Believer, I greatly suggest that only God can create life, whether it be twins in the womb or clones in the test tube. God is the author of all life, and we should show full respect to God's handiwork, even if human beings will distort and abuse God's gift of life to us. If two twins shall be born from the mother's womb on the same day, it would not be valid to ask which life is valid and which is not. So also, if that twin is born in a test tube or through an act of cloning. Even if man shall form the body from pre-existing organic materials, yet God creates the soul within every potential clone (if not the body itself). However, not all view God as the sovereign author of all life on earth. Although, scientists will attempt to enhance or distort human life (as had been done with animals already), we should nonetheless not thank the scientist for a new life on the earth. The scientist had only taken what God had first originated and melded such organic materials through scientific methods. Ultimately, there will likely be three demonstrated applications for cloning in the end times: 1. Clones will be used to fight our wars, at the loss of their various God-given lives and limbs. 2. Clones will perform our daily labors for us as permanent slaves bought for a hefty price. This will be particularly advantageous for larger corporations that would like to cut payroll a bit. 3. Clones will be used for medical experimentions as the Jews were, due to their percieved expendability. - Now beyond all this, there will be two camps of people: 1. The first camp will be a portion of the religious camp, which will declare the mistaken belief that clones lack souls and are therefore not a viable form of life. From here, mass geneocides of clones will be first supported and later performed. However, an offshoot of this first camp will also arise, which will fully support the first three applications for clones that I had suggested. Although, they will not view clones as having souls, they will nonetheless view mass genocide as impractical. 2. The second religious camp of people will declare that clones do indeed have souls, which constitutes that they are a viable form of life, likewise deserving equal freedoms as all human beings. These shall oppose the usage of clones as war soldiers, corporate slaves and medical test subjects. They shall also attempt to convey the Gospel of Jesus to them. However, another offshoot will also arise from this second camp of people, who will justify the deaths of the first and original camp, who support and/or perform mass genocide of the clones. These shall spill the blood of a portion of the first camp, so as to defend the clones by way of violence. - Which camp will you choose? - James 1 16 Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren. 17 Every good thing given and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shifting shadow. (NAS95) - Blessings, Reighnskye |
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2 | is the seed non-human? | Dan 2:43 | believer 2004 | 133539 | ||
I do not believe that clones will have souls. God does not create them, only the living tissue used to grow them. I also do not believe in murder of any kind.Rev. 13:10, Matt.26:52, and many more.also,as for those who do not belong to Him:Matt.15:13. misty |
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3 | is the seed non-human? | Dan 2:43 | Reighnskye | 133592 | ||
Believer, If we do not view God as the ultimate creator of clones, then we do not view God as the sovereign creator of all things. James 1 16 Do not err, my beloved brethren. 17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. (KJV) - Further, I suggest that there are four primary components to consciousness, wherein we may accurately ascertain if a person or being (or a clonal replicant in this case) possesses a conscious soul. The four components of soulish consciousness are as follows: 1. Intellect: the capacity for thought, reasoning and mathematical analysis. 2. Emotion: the capacity to experience happiness and sorrow, anger and fear, along with a vast plethora of associative emotions. 3. Volition: the capacity to make strategic and tactical plans and decisions, in regards to the locomotion of the physical body. 4. Conscience: the capacity to operate by an inner moral awareness, in relation to others around us. And I have not even referenced here the components of physical material consciousness. Ecclesiastes 3 21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth? (KJV) - Lastly, the very last verse that you had referenced to me, in your position against the soulish validity of clones, seems to be a vast over-extension in the application of scripture. The following scripture does not refer to cloning. Matthew 15 13 But He answered and said, "Every plant which My heavenly Father did not plant shall be uprooted. (NAS95) It appears to me by your usage of this text, that you believe that the living awareness of clones will somehow be uprooted? - Blessings, Reighnskye |
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4 | is the seed non-human? | Dan 2:43 | believer 2004 | 133663 | ||
You are making the assumption that clones are a good thing. You are also leaving the most important way to tell whether a thing is a human or not, and that is it's ability to Love and Worship the lord. This has nothing to do with science, but creation. You can not assume that clones come from God. To do so is to assume that every manmade thing is made because He wants it made, such as the tower of Babel and false gods, nuclear bombs, etc. He allows humans to do what they do so He can fulfill His plans. There is no way anyone can possibly think a clone is made of God. He does not breathe the breath of life in them, they are grown in a laboratory, not in the womb. If this was a good thing, He could have made Jesus in the same way. Which is ridiculous! He used the way He made and excepted to bring a child into this world, and it wasn't cloning. I think that IF clones are allowed, they will be aware, be able to think and ACT like a human, but have no soul with which to interact with GOD in any way. They will have no conscious to slow them down or make them feel guilt or sorrow. As I said, these are my opinions, as well as what you have given me is your opinion, not biblical truth. As for the verse in Matt., I only said it could be referring to something not human, not specifically cloning.What do you think it means? Having a clone, who I believe will not have a conscious, would be the perfect vehicle for demons to freely enter. GOD BLESS! Misty |
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5 | is the seed non-human? | Dan 2:43 | Reighnskye | 133788 | ||
Misty, I agree that you are making assumptions here. I did however give a verse reference for my belief. It's up to you if you want to go with that or not. I'll not force the argument. I might suggest that it would be good for you to provide verse references, rather than simpy trying to press a perspective on extra-biblical basis. - Blessings, Reighnskye |
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