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1 | ... | Is 4:1 | sparkyman481 | 170376 | ||
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2 | ... | Is 4:1 | Wild Olive Shoot | 170433 | ||
Aaron, If I may ask, from where have you pulled this position of the seven women being the complete church? You make reference to e-Sword in your personal info as being a valuable study stool. Have you bothered to read what commentary is available for this verse in question that is downloadable with e-Sword? It is not only many on this forum that do not agree with your position, as been so greatly communicated, but those and that in which who you claim to value in your studies. “Isa 4:1 - In that day - In that calamitous time. Seven - Many. A certain number for an uncertain. One man - Because few men shall survive that dreadful stroke. Only - Own us for thy wives. Our reproach - Virginity was esteemed a reproach; children, the usual fruit of marriage, being both an honour to their parents, and a blessing of God, especially to that people, from some of whose loins the Messiah was to spring.” – John Wesley “Isa 4:1 - And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man,.... Not in the days of Ahaz, when Pekah, son of Remaliah, slew in Judah a hundred and twenty thousand men in one day, 2Ch_28:6 as Kimchi thinks; for though there was then such a destruction of men, yet at the same time two hundred thousand women, with sons and daughters, were carried captive by the Israelites, 2Ch_28:8 but in the days of Vespasian and Titus, and in the time of their wars with the Jews; in which were made such slaughters of men, that there were not enough left for every woman to have a husband; and therefore "seven", or a great many, sue to one man to marry them, contrary to their natural bashfulness. It is a tradition of the Jews, mentioned both by Jarchi and Kimchi, that Nebuchadnezzar ordered his army, that none of them should marry another man's wife; wherefore every woman sought to get a husband; but the time of this prophecy does not agree with it:” – John Gill “Seven women - The number “seven” is used often to denote a “large” though “indefinite” number; Lev_26:28; Pro_24:16; Zec_3:9. It means that so great should be the calamity, so many “men” would fall in battle, that many women would, contrary to their natural modesty, become suitors to a single man, to obtain him as a husband and protector.” – Albert Barnes “Isa 4:1 - that day — the calamitous period described in previous chapter. seven — indefinite number among the Jews. So many men would be slain, that there would be very many more women than men; for example, seven women, contrary to their natural bashfulness, would sue to (equivalent to “take hold of,” Isa_3:6) one man to marry them.” -- Jamieson, Fausset and Brown “Here it is foretold that such multitudes of men should be cut off that there should be seven women to one man. 2. That by reason of the scarcity of men, though marriage should be kept up for the raising of recruits and the preserving of the race of mankind upon earth, yet the usual method of it should be quite altered, - that, whereas men ordinarily make their court to the women, the women should now take hold of the men, foolishly fearing (as Lot's daughters did, when they saw the ruin of Sodom and perhaps thought it reached further than it did) that in a little time there would be none left (Gen_19:31), - that whereas women naturally hate to come in sharers with others, seven should now, by consent, become the wives of one man, - and that whereas by the law the husband was obliged to provide food and raiment for his wife (Exo_21:10), which with many would be the most powerful argument against multiplying wives, these women will be bound to support themselves; they will eat bread of their own earning, and wear apparel of their own working, and the man they court shall be at no expense upon them, only they desire to be called his wives, to take away the reproach of a single life. They are willing to be wives upon any terms, though ever so unreasonable; and perhaps the rather because in these troublesome times it would be a kindness to them to have a husband for their protector.” – Matthew Henry How valuable is it to you that you don’t bother to consider how it helps you with what is discussed and decide to go off on your own tangent? WOS |
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3 | ... | Is 4:1 | sparkyman481 | 170435 | ||
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4 | ... | Is 4:1 | Wild Olive Shoot | 170439 | ||
You hold no value in the thoughts of man??? My, my... One could very easily claim the same about your twisting of the Scripture and have far more support from the Word of God than you. Since your statement is your own thought, and you are a man, why should anyone regard them as factual? WOS |
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5 | ... | Is 4:1 | sparkyman481 | 170445 | ||
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6 | ... | Is 4:1 | Wild Olive Shoot | 170458 | ||
You really need to read and understand the very Scripture you are quoting my friend. And while you’re at it, here is another: Psa 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Scripture quoted and used out of context in no way substantiates some misguided prophecy you seem to have discovered. The Scripture you have presented in no way confirms what you have claimed. Other users on this forum have showed this to you and as well have pointed out in a godly manner using God’s Word, that you are wrong. What more can any do? We could engage in a dueling quote kind of thing but that would not benefit anyone now would it? At this point I’m afraid you would simply inappropriately use other Scripture out of context and not even bother to take heed of that which was presented to you. Maybe you are just too smart for this forum Aaron. Thank God He will not judge us based on intelligence. However, I hope when I’m in front of the Bema Seat, I won’t have to answer for misusing God’s Word and for inviting others to do so also. Call me dumb friend, but with Christ, I’m as smart as I need to be and I'm okay with that. Peace to you. WOS |
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7 | ... | Is 4:1 | sparkyman481 | 170459 | ||
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8 | ... | Is 4:1 | jlhetrick | 170464 | ||
Hello Aaron, you write: "They could show me from the scriptures how the apostles revealed prophesy being fulfilled. for example the fulfillment of Judas as I showed in an earlier part of this thread. If the apostles can do it why can't we. Do we not share the same Holy Spirit or is their another spirit that was in them?" perhaps you've missed the whole point. you, and we, are not apostles. Jeff |
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9 | ... | Is 4:1 | sparkyman481 | 170470 | ||
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10 | ... | Is 4:1 | Hank | 170473 | ||
Dear Aaron: The Forum has been very patient with you, friend, but there is a limit on how far we will go. I enjoin you to stop hurling biblical curses at fellow Forum members, such as, for example, the recent ones you shot back at respected Forum member jlhetrick. He has been patient and has tried to teach you, but you cannot or will not listen to instruction. ..... On this apostle/epistle question, know ye know that an epistle is the wife of an apostle? :-) --Hank | ||||||