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1 | Why won't Calvinists answer directly??? | Job 38:1 | kalos | 2086 | ||
Was God somehow responsible for the sins of Pharoah? Jas 1:13-14 ASV (1901) "Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with evil, and he himself tempteth no man: but each man is tempted, when he is drawn away by his own lust, and enticed." |
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2 | Why won't Calvinists answer directly??? | Job 38:1 | RElderCascade | 2137 | ||
A very important distinction! You are very wise to note this issue. It goes to the idea of eternal reprobation -- how does it work. God was not in any way responsible for the sins of Pharaoh! Nor is God resopnsible for anyone's sins. There is a common mistake made by the extreme position which I was trying to refute in the message posted on 3/23. The following is an excerpt from it. "...I don't subscribe to the belief that the way God chose the non-elect is by specificly working in the lives of those who are not saved to harden them to the guaranteed point of sending them to Hell. I know that in the rhetorical moment of an earlier comment I made it sound like I beleive God makes positive surety of those going to Hell by His involvement directly. That is not the way it works. God will instead give one over to the real state of their heart. Pharoah had enough evil in his heart already, so when God hardened his heart it was done by restraining his grace from him. God set it out from the foundation of eternity to either elect Pharoah or pass him over and it had nothing to do with the self-refuting nonsense that God had to look into the the future to see what Pharoah would do and then respond." So the idea of eternal reprobation is God restrains His grace from those who are not elect. But He does not (by scriptural evidence) seem to guarantee the unbelief of the non-elect. They are, as you quoted, "drawn away by their own lust." |
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3 | Why won't Calvinists answer directly??? | Job 38:1 | kalos | 2146 | ||
Thank you for your reply. I would like to add to what you are saying in your reply: Election is the Bible doctrine that (Eph 1:4 and 2 Thess 2:13) God chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world for salvation. And he merely left the rest in their sinful condition. Nowhere does the Bible or its doctrine of election say "God chose for some to be saved and others not to be saved." He chose some for salvation and left the rest as He found them. Is God unjust to do this? No, never. Scripture abundantly affirms that God is never unjust or unfair. God is sovereign and is under no obligation to explain to man the why of every last thing He does. | ||||||