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1 | Who has the opportunity to be saved? | Job 38:1 | Brent Douglass | 1858 | ||
I really like Lloyd-Jones on "The Baptism and Gifts of the Holy Spirit" -- with a few minor exceptions. (I especially like his quotation of Spurgeon's description of the Baptism of the Spirit -- yes Spurgeon, along with Moody, Edwards and others, believed in this experience-- but that's a separate discussion. The descriptions in the journals of Whitfield and the Wesleys concur with the descriptions that Lloyd-Jones quotes from Edwards and others. The Holy Spirit is sovereign over actual revival, and it is merely a large-scale experience of the Baptism (or pouring out) of the Spirit, which can also happen on an individual basis (including more than once to the same person or group, as evidenced in Acts 4:23-31, when it happened to many of the same people who had experienced it on Pentecost in Acts 2). In this century, we have scheduled "revivals" -- meetings set up according to steps designed to cause such outpouring. However, there are no such designs or manipulations in the Scriptural accounts. Nor were there such machinations in the revivals under the Wesleys and Whitfield, or under Jonathan Edwards or Dwight Moody. The Gospel was simply preached, and the Spirit fell with power. I have no problem with deliberate humbling oneself, commitment to purifying oneself (or one's congregation), asking God for boldness, (etc.) but the experience can not and should never be manipulated, advertised or sought by itself. |
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2 | Who has the opportunity to be saved? | Job 38:1 | RElderCascade | 1917 | ||
Good material to study, I enjoy many of the same materials you listed. May I add a definition of revival? My pastor of twelve years ago defined revival this way: "Revival is an increased frequency of the normal work of God the Holy Spirit." One of the reasons I love this definition is because of the high value it places on the normal work of the Holy Spirit. God the Holy Spirit normally "revives the soul" (as David wrote), and conviction of sin both to the unsaved and to the saved (in sanctification) are normal operations of the Spirit. This definition also recognizes a special newness -- namely the God's sovereign choice of more people being saved! Another excellent value we find in this brief and lovely definition is the restraint it gives us from creating revival ourselves (machinations, as you put it). I would be interested to know how important to you is your stand on the Baptism of the Spirit happening more than once to the same person? |
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3 | Who has the opportunity to be saved? | Job 38:1 | Brent Douglass | 1929 | ||
Suffice to say I think it's fairly clear in both Biblical examples and in documented church history. Lloyd-Jones saw the baptism of the Holy Spirit as corresponding to a special empowerment for witnessing and not necessarily directly linked with any specific spiritual gifts (although it could be at times). I believe Wesley probably connected it to entry into a state of "entire sanctification" (being completely set apart for God, loving God with all of one's heart, mind, soul and strength) -- which he later recognized to be potentially temporary and needful of restoration. I agree with Lloyd-Jones, and I'm not sure if I agree with Wesley exactly on this right now. I can't say I'm set in stone on it, but I'm pretty confident of it. |
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