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1 | If elect is not choose, then what is it? | Job 38:1 | kalos | 1788 | ||
Thank you for your sensible, scriptural posting of 03-24-2001. I would like to comment on your Note, the part where you say, "That man chooses isn't in debate, the issue is who enabled him to choose?" . . . Exactly! That man chooses is indisputable. Allow me to quote from the Baker Theological Dictionary of the Bible (p. 199, Baker Books, 1996). "In the Scriptures the term 'choose' is used of both God and human beings. With respect to human beings, it covers all human decisions. ...God also makes choices and by a large margin, the term 'choose' is used in Scripture to refer to the choices of God rather than human choices." . . . Footnote: 'Elect' means THE SAME THING AS 'choose.' Here is the dictionary definition of 'elect': "to CHOOSE (as a course of action) especially by preference ( example: might elect to sell the business)." Therefore 'choosing' equals 'election.' (Dictionary definition of 'election': "the right, power, or privilege of MAKING A CHOICE.") . . . My point: when the anti-Calvinist, anti-election, anti-everything crowd refuses to agree with the ordinary meaning of the English words 'elect' and 'choose', they make it impossible to even discuss election. |
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2 | If elect is not choose, then what is it? | Job 38:1 | RElderCascade | 1833 | ||
Much appreciated goodies, your efforts to look things up and contribute are greatly appreciated. The "anti-everything crowd" seems to prefer to say only our side is ____minded enough to pretend like we know exactly how God works. On the contrary, we don't do any more than say we see certain things as true (affirmed in scripture) whether they require deeper thought to fit alongside each other or not. The other position often throws up their arms in protest of our affirmation of what we see taught in scripture, saying these are possibly conflicting truths (they actually appear more hardened to me often by stating that these ARE logical contradictions). But we better not the mistake that redefines Him to be less than sovereign! To err on the side of sovereignty is much safer! | ||||||
3 | If elect is not choose, then what is it? | Job 38:1 | kalos | 1835 | ||
Amen! Thank you for telling it like it is. It may be that the majority of the members of this Forum are against the Bible doctrine of election. However, as you know, sir, truth is not established by a majority vote. | ||||||