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1 | Two prophets? | Job | charis | 33177 | ||
Dear Searcher, Greetings in the name of Jesus! "They cannot ever vary from the Word of God." Like Moses, David, Jonah, John or Peter, right? This is an admirable standard, my friend. I can only pray (for you) that your measure is correct. Peace and love in Christ Jesus, charis |
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2 | Two prophets? | Job | Jensen | 33232 | ||
Dear charis…Try again to understand the opposing position. Please. Linguistic Gymnastics are beneath you. You know the point Searcher is making. Why the Dance? Are you afraid of the weakness of the position you hold: That a prophet of God is still a prophet of God even if he declares “Thus saith the Lord…” and is shown to be wrong, incorrect, off the mark, unbiblical. The position is to me absurd. If you claim to speak for God, you better be right. What happens to the false prophet, the one who leads people astray? (Revelation) No other ministerial Gift makes that claim of speaking for God and you know it. Not a teacher, a pastor, an evangelical, or apostle. Even Paul took pains do write to Timothy that some of what he(Paul) was saying was of himself “…and not the Lord”. Would you consider a person who claimed the Gift of Evangelism and never, ever, led anyone in the direction to the Lord to be a true Evangelist (or are we not to judge?) And the Pastor who never, ever, led a church regardless of size but claimed to be a Pastor and that was proof enough that he had the Gift of Pastor? In my past life I would have said “Put up or shut up” but today I say TEST all things and RENEW your mind :-) Please do not seize only upon a single sentence found herein for a reply. Please speak to the spirit of the post if at all. What is disconcerting is that I once thought we were in agreement on this fine point of this debate. But if we can not agree on this single point of accuracy there is really little else to say. All doctrine is up for grabs. Christianity makes no stand. We can argue on endlessly on every point, regardless of Scriptural authority. We can make it up as we go along like a new age religion. We can even claim “secret” knowledge from now on. We impress not our Lord, and we play the part of the fool on the world stage. We search for God and find ourselves. Sad really. You know that I do not attack you on a personal basis. How could I? I have too much respect for you. But your position is…..well,……missing the mark. (And I think you know it) God Bless….Jensen |
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3 | Two prophets? | Job | charis | 33264 | ||
Dear Jensen, Greetings in the name of the Lord Jesus! "Whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks through Him to God the Father." Colossians 3:17 NASB. I have agreed with you that any prophet that speaks presumtuously in the name of the Lord is out of order. If he persists, ignore his prophecies, perhaps even censure him. This is the responsibility of every pastor of every church. If a prophet leads people astray, it is because the pastor is not doing his job. In addition, the saints of God have some responsibility to discern false prophets, and beware of them. To this extent I agree with you. If you rant and rave about false prophets, then it is VERY PERTINENT to ask about true prophets. You, sir, are the one that has been dancing around this side of the issue. My point (since the 28th of January) is that there ARE true prophets today, and that their spiritual gift and ministerial gift is closely tied to that of the other gifts given to the church. Prophets encourage the church, as is clearly stated in the Bible, and you have ignored totally: "But one who prophesies speaks to men for edification and exhortation and consolation." 1 Corinthians 14:3 NASB. There are no more Old Testament prophets. There are only New Testament prophets. The do exactly what the Bible says they do. They do not bring new future revelation from God to the universal church (i.e. add to or re-write the Bible). They encourage the (local) church at the ministerial level, and their gift compliments (perfectly!) the other gifts given to the church. That there are false prophets does not take away one whit the purpose and necessity of the prophetic ministry. This same logic would deny us every gift and ministry in the church, because there are charlatans masquerading in every level of church activity. No, my friend, I do NOT know that I am missing any mark. I am simply stating an opinion based on my study of the Bible and experience in the ministry. Your "for the lack of 'accuracy'... the Kingdom of God fell" argument is very intersting! :-) In Christ Jesus, charis |
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