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NASB | Amos 1:1 The words of Amos, who was among the sheepherders from Tekoa, which he envisioned in visions concerning Israel in the days of Uzziah king of Judah, and in the days of Jeroboam son of Joash, king of Israel, two years before the earthquake. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Amos 1:1 The words of Amos, who was among the sheepherders of Tekoa, which he saw [in a divine revelation] concerning Israel in the days of Uzziah king of Judah, and in the days of Jeroboam the son of Joash, king of Israel, two years before the earthquake. [Zech 14:5] |
Subject: Why do catholic call Mary mother of God. |
Bible Note: Joe, You are right about the relative significance of the subject. We are also past the level of "get out of religion and into a relationship with Christ." At least I hope so. I don't think I can answer better than Merton. You really should get the book, which is about a lot more than just Transubstantiation. Basically the substance is the answer to the essential question, What is this? and the answer is, the Body of Christ. The accidents are the outward appearence and sensory perceptions but not the essential quality of the reality. But I may not be exactly precise. It has a long time since I studied the exact meaning of these philosophical terms dealing with reality and existence. I must admit my conversations with non Catholics rarely get to this level. See my "get out of religion" comment. What I like about this forum is that the people I most often interact with are not that way. And conversations with people who always agree with you are not very stimulating, assuming you can even get a conversation going in such a circumstance. Your question about what is the difference between the Calvinist position and the Catholic is the right question. I am sorry to say I don't have a ready answer for you. So it seems we are in the same spot in that regard. But I knew that the information would surprise you. I also think the answer to your question about "production" is that Merton was saying that the Body of Christ was not "produced" or "adduced" by the priest but the change is effected by Christ through the Holy Spirit as the prayer called the epiclesis just before the consecration asks. Another book I highly recommend: The Lambs Supper: The Mass as Heaven on Earth, by Scott Hahn, is a treatment of the Mass in the context of covenant and a participation in the liturgy of heaven as seen in Revelation. I gave it to another Presbyterian friend after we got into a dicussion of covenant theology. Her note in the book when she returned it said she found it "very interesting and thought provoking." The section of the Catechism on the Eucharist, I think you would also find interesting if you have not already read it. Sometimes I prefer these kinds of discussion where we are left with something to think about. Emmaus |