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Subject: Why won't Calvinists answer directly??? |
Bible Note: Paul is not at all alone as one who uses the language of Elect and predestination, foreknowledge etc., look up Peter and John and Luke also! Moses and David and Solomon come to mind as well. I would like to add that Paul was hardly reminding them of things they already knew. The cannon was not complete and the newness of the gospel was absolutely incredible. Revelation in the first fifty years hardly strikes me as 'old hat' nor does it to me today. Every detail of Christianity stands out from our modern culture and it has always done so or else it isn't really Spirit-led Christian doctrine. Who knows about the actual position of the people of Noah's day. Keep in mind that God may take even the elect home "early" and of course this doesn't have to reflect their eternal state. But when we see such huge acts of judgement based on "every thought was only evil continually", it seems quite fair to also conclude that He withdrew his grace from these people. Your view of chance required to receive the Gospel must easily see that their chances were made quite impossible once drowned. Your only hope is in God's Grace bestowed as it must be before the foundation of the world otherwise it isn't grace. To trust this world system to get the good news to you could fail as it did the people in Noah's day! You should read Luther's "Bondage of the Will" and then get back to me on your idea of actors ad-libbing, with the "g" god of the universe watching. Luther will blow your mind, I guarantee you'll love it! All who are accepted in the Beloved are exactly in the place of the puppet in the positive sense. We are there cabled up to our God free from having to serve sin (Eph 2:1-3) as we used to and we live and move and have our being IN our great God. He is our Puppetier and we are His creatures, and its even better than puppetiers that I've seen because God's undergirding is personal and not mechanical. He shows us what He is like and we learn how we should live. He forgives us and He is not at fault if a cable appears to be broken! Please don't be so overwhelmed with the sin and death and sadness and inhumanity of this world to think that any of those things taint the place of a Christian. These things are not the problem of a salvation experience. Not one of them will affect our cables to God as he undergirds us! Praise God! |