Bible Question:
(The big Christmas con.) Was December the 25th chosen by the early christian church as the birth date of Jesus the Christ because it coinsided with thw (Saturnalia,) a pagan festival??? the church was trying to discourage the pagan belief system so thay hijakcted a pagan holiday. How much more of the Pagan belief system was hijakcted by the Christian church to insure the use,abuse or menipulation of its followers to insure it's own adjender? |
Bible Answer: I respectfully disagree with the viewpoint that has been expressed up to this point in this thread. There seems to be an attitude that testing the doctrines and origins is off-limits to christians, but the bible says to test all spirits (1John 4:1). When I read my bible, I find that when God gave the Law to Moses, he included within it that we are not to follow after the practices of the pagans of the world (Deuteronomy 18:9 and after, Leviticus 18:26 and after). Of more interest to the particular topic of christmas is Jeremiah 10:2-4. Here it appears that God is condemning the use of a decorated tree, telling us not to learn the ways of the heathen. Is it coincidence that the festival(s) the pagans and heathen used to celebrate many of their dieties (in reality, mere idols) births and the birth of the sun falls on the same day (in some cases within the week, like saturnalia, which you mentioned) that the church has chosen for the celebration of the birth of Christ? I don't think so when I learn of the history of the church, seeing many "comprimises" along the way. (Keep in mind, I am a biblical-literalist Christian) What about Santa Claus? What in the world does he have to do with Christ? Does anyone deny his origins in teutonic europe (pagan during the times of Rome)? What about yule logs, mistle-toe, (the before mentioned) christmas trees, holiday wreaths, etc.? These have nothing to do with Christ, and in Fact each and everyone of them has their origins in the very pagan holidays that fall either on or within the week of December 25th (to be accurate, along the winter solstice). To claim this is only a political issue dodges the real problem, and that is incorporating pagan and heathenistic practices into well-meaning and pure-hearted purposes. This is nothing to do with politics, but with the way we worship and honor God and Jesus Christ, thus making it at it's core a spiritual issue. My question to those who think I am off base is this: If it is okay to take pagan rituals and apply christian labels and meanings on them, then why can we not sacrifice our children in the fires of Molech, only dedicate them to Christ instead? The answer to this question is obvious, but too many christians do not apply that answer to other, seemingly harmless, pagan rituals. In Christ and with Love, Shaun |
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