Bible Question (short): How to use scripture, prove them wrong? |
Question (full): EdB, It seems that many arguments against WOF go too far in that they begin to appear as anti-faith. Faith in faith IS truly meaningless. I do see that faith in Christ is the important point, but it is not at all stressed in these arguments against WOF. Christ Jesus Himself stressed the dangers of “doubt”, never did He stress the dangers of too much faith in Him: Matthew 21 21So Jesus answered and said to them, "Assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but also if you say to this mountain, "Be removed and be cast into the sea,' it will be done. 22And whatever things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive." Please do not be offended by what I have to say, as I am not defending WOF teachings. However, I do defend faith in Christ and the authority that He gave us. You asked: ”As for not mentioning scripture how do you take a person that is convoluting scripture and use scripture to prove they are wrong. Scripture is a statement of truth not an arguement against falsehoods. “ Since truth is the opposite of false, then the Word can be used to prove falsehoods. After all, don’t we use scripture to show that there is a trinity when the word trinity is not used in the bible? Also, as the US military entered Baghdad, there were arab news braodcasters that were saying that the US was not in Baghdad. Well, if those broadcasters had continued to lie, a couple days later they would have found the need to explain the US tanks that rolled by during their broadcast! Just continue to use scripture to tell the truth. Don’t worry about refuting every lie. More lies are continually needed to prop-up previous lies. However, the truth stands on its own. You asked: ”When a false teacher says "we have all authority" how do I or anyone else refute that with scripture that says "all authority was given to Jesus" or "we have authority to use the name of Jesus"? There is no scripture that says we have no authority in ourselves only what God makes available to us through the name of Jesus. Which is far different than saying we have ('all' being implied) authority.” I think you may have a misconception of the difference between “power” and “authority”: When a policeman has an arrest warant, does’nt he have “all” authority of the government to make that arrest? Because, if he is injured or chased off, then many more police will arrive. If they still do not have enough power to handle the arrest then more and more reinforcments are called in, so that whatever is necessary to make the arrest comes to bare. This is what defines “authority” and illistrates the difference between “power” and “authority”. You asked: ”When a false teacher says Adam gave Satan authority in the garden. When there is no mention of any authority transfer mentioned anywhere in the Bible connected to the fall in the garden how can anyone use scripture to refute it. Do you expect the Bible to say someday a false teacher will say there was an authority transfer in the garden hence know this, it is not true?” Then how do you reconcile these scriptures: Gen 1 28Then God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth." ”When a false teacher says God had to sneak Jesus on this earth to regain control. ... Do you expect the Bible to say I didn't have to sneak Jesus on to the earth or that God didn't have to regain control?” 1 Corinthians 2 7But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, 8which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. EdB, I encourage you to put forward more scripture, after all, it is the only weapon of our armour. I also recognize that you are not one to blurt out words that you have not thought through. 2 Corinthians 10:4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, Ephesians 6 10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. 11Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age,[3] against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. … 16above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. 17And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God; Pastor Glenn |