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NASB | Revelation 22:18 ¶ I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Revelation 22:18 ¶ I testify and warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book [its predictions, consolations, and admonitions]: if anyone adds [anything] to them, God will add to him the plagues (afflictions, calamities) which are written in this book; [Deut 4:2] |
Subject: Does God speak to us in dreams today? |
Bible Note: Hi Doc, I appreciate your concern for my emotional state - please allow me to assure you that it is not in jeopardy! :-) I believe that I know you well enough from our many discourses that you, as do I, do not allow differences of opinion to stand between our fellowship. :-) I do not have a difficuly with the concept of cessationism. As we are discussing whether or not God speaks to man in ways other than through the pages of scripture, cessationism as it applies to spiritual gifts, and to the fulfillment of Joel's prophecy, has a direct bearing. If you are a "cessationist", this simply describes the conclusions you have reached. I obviously am not a "cessationist", as I believe that God works through the spiritual gifts, as well as prophecy, dreams, and visions. There is more scripture I could present, but as I said, this topic has been thoroughly discussed on this forum previously. I understand you to be approaching this from a "cessationist" stance because of the fact that the only scripture you have referenced in answering this question, does God still speak to us in dreams, is Revelation 22:18 "I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book;" You have presented this response saying that if God were to speak to us today, we would have to collect all of His communications, and add them to the Bible. I do not believe that any of the contributors to this thread have any intent to add to the book of the Revelation, or to any other parts of the Bible. Using commonly accepted translations, quoting verbatim, and examining entire passages in context, comparing several passages that directly relate to the matter, casting aside all preconceptions, I have let the scripture speak for itself. This has led me to conclusions that are commonly held by believers today, and that are widely supported in commentaries from yesterday and today. Many churches teach as I believe, and many teach as you believe. I am happy to let this rest here. Love in Christ, Mark |