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NASB | 2 Timothy 2:23 But refuse foolish and ignorant speculations, knowing that they produce quarrels. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 2 Timothy 2:23 But have nothing to do with foolish and ignorant speculations [useless disputes over unedifying, stupid controversies], since you know that they produce strife and give birth to quarrels. |
Subject: What To Shut Your Mind Against |
Bible Note: Tim: I agree with you that: "None of these passages indicate that it is inappropriate to engage in studies of doctrine or to engage in detailed discussions about a Bible passage." As long as they don't go beyond mere studies and discussions. As long as they don't degenerate into something else. Indeed, what is the forum here for? Sometimes I wonder. Discussion (such as we are having now) is one thing. Quarreling is another thing altogether. Answering questions is one thing. Long drawn-out debates -- which OFTEN result in quarrels, verbal abuse, ad hominem attacks, and insults -- is another thing entirely. So is it OK to have "stupid and foolish controversies...and dissensions and wrangling" among ourselves, as long as we don't have them with false teachers? Among ourselves is it OK to engage in "trifling (ill-informed, unedifying, stupid) controversies over ignorant questionings," even though we "know that they foster strife and breed quarrels"? Is there no problem if those in the body of Christ have "a morbid fondness for controversy and disputes and strife about words, which result in (produce) envy and jealousy, quarrels and dissension, abuse and insults and slander, and base suspicions"? Such things are A-OK (they edify, and inspire) as long as we keep them all in the family? Grace to you, Kalos |