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NASB | 1 Timothy 2:12 But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Timothy 2:12 I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet [in the congregation]. |
Subject: I Tim 2:12 Paul's opinion or God's Word? |
Bible Note: Stever, dear friend, It appears you are misrepresenting the facts but I'm going to assume you just made an honest mistake and will go on from there. Thus I cite my statement as it appeared as follows "Like you say, WHEN Paul is giving guidance that is only coming from him WITHOUT the Holy Spirit's sponsoring, he says so very clearly but in the Epistle to Timothy, he's very plain and straight forward. There's no room for interpretation." As an example of what I was talking about with this statement, I cite the following scripture 1 Cor 7:5 Stop depriving one another, except by agreement for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer, and come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 But this I say by way of concession, not of command. 7 Yet I wish that all men were even as I myself am. However, each man has his own gift from God, one in this manner, and another in that. 8 But I say to the unmarried and to widows that it is good for them if they remain even as I. 9 But if they do not have self-control, let them marry; for it is better to marry than to burn with passion. 10 But to the married I give instructions, not I, but the Lord, that the wife should not leave her husband 11 (but if she does leave, she must remain unmarried, or else be reconciled to her husband), and that the husband should not divorce his wife. 12 But to the rest I say, not the Lord, that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he must not divorce her. Here we see Paul dealing with a very, very tough subject and several times, he goes back and forth giving guidance as speaking for the Lord and in other instances, just giving his opinion or stating his prefernce under the circumstances (which I believe he was referring to the amount of persecution christians were undergoing). Now that's done, let's go back to what you've done. For future reference so YOU don't ruin someone else's reputation or your own and get yourself "thrown off" the Forum, I would urge you to be more thorough in reviewing controversial posts such as mine, most ESPECIALLY if you're making a serious accusation as stated in your post. As you've already discovered, I don't hesitate to deal with some thorny issues and speak maybe just a little impulsively myself. But as I've stated many times before, my posts to this Forum will ALWAYS be Bible based or I'll try to make it clear I'm just stating my opinion. But even then my opinions will be based on inferences from God's Word and will be at least the best of my ability, based on solid logic therefrom. I do hope this is the end of this controversy. I look forward to a very long and fruitful ministry here on this Forum, including future discussions with you. God bless. --Rowdy |