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NASB | 1 Thessalonians 5:23 ¶ Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Thessalonians 5:23 ¶ Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you through and through [that is, separate you from profane and vulgar things, make you pure and whole and undamaged--consecrated to Him--set apart for His purpose]; and may your spirit and soul and body be kept complete and [be found] blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. |
Subject: Triune gods began in babylon? |
Bible Note: First off, I have love toward all our brethren and wish not to cause any contention between belivers. 2nd I do believe that Jesus Christ is Lord and God raised him from the dead - that's how you get born again Romans 10:9-10 Romans 9:5 shows that God blessed Christ. One need not switch the wording around, the same as in other places where it mentions that God blessed something or someone. Without our Savior, we would still be dead in our sins. And as I mentioned in the last posting, Christ is our Lord and Savior. Don't jump to conclusions and get all upset about things, say things that aren't being said - it doesn't profit if one person starts that. Jesus Christ was our perfect redeemer, a man, just as you wrote in Phil 2:7 He was born, God is his Father, he had all the rights, privileges that a son today would have as being born of someone great, but the thing was that he didn't brag about it, didn't try to intimidate people, but rather he became a servant, and lovingly did his Father's fully. Also from your quote on 1 Cor 15:27-28: ...But when it says, All things are put in subjection, it is evident that He [God] is excepted who does the subjecting of all things to him. And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him [Father] that put all things under him, so that God may be all in all Obviously the Father is God - but when God subdues even his son, Christ, unto himself - it shows that it is necessary for even Christ to be under the Father - or else God would not have said it. The afore-mentioned "Doctrine of the Trinity..." is showing in its title that the doctine was inrtoduced and elevated to a point where it is taking away from the greatness that God has shown in his Word, keeping things simple as the word declared them will be much more profitable for the believer. The book is written in a well manner it unfolds many things people are ignorant of. Here's some questions that must be answered if Jesus Christ is truly God, not the Son of God: #1) Jesus Christ was a man 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; yet God says in his Word that God is not a man, how can that be? Num 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: It could have just said that God would not ever lie - but it didn't. Yet if Christ is the son of God - a man, the one who died and paid the full price for the whole world's sins - then this fits perfectly with the rest of the Word #2) If Christ is God, then how could an eternal, everlasting God die? God cannot die, the creator who lives for all eternity. Yet it says in the Word that Jesus Christ did indeed die - and was buried- Christ himself spoke this verse: Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Romans 5:6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. When I have something confusing I tend to not like it, just as 1 Corinthians 14:33 says: For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace.. To try to make sense of God being the creator of heaven and earth - and God being spirit and being completely a man at the same time - and dying -yet being able to bring himself back from the dead when he was dead - praying to himself, and asking that not his will be done buy God's, and not knowing the time of Christ's return, and saying that the Father is greater than he: John 14:28 ...If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I John 4:24 God is a Spirit... He's either spirit or not, Jesus Christ was either dead or not, and if not dead then we are not saved, God is either greater than Jesus Christ or not, you read it, you decide. How much more fulfilling to see that Jesus Christ - God's only begotten son - walked a perfect walk doing always the will of his Father - and was the one who fulfilled all that was required to bring man back to God. Hebrews 4:15 ..but [Christ] was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. When you try to fit it in that it was God who walked perfectly - there is nothing to it for him - for God is perfect and in him is there no darkness at all. But for a man - Jesus Christ - to have fully accomplished what we needed in a redeemer - so see how perfectly he walked with the Father - that's amazing. Every situation he had to hold fast the word in his mind - to love - to know his Father's will - and to carry it out. Now that's a savior - one who has to endure the world - being able to have a choice - there's no controlling of posession when it comes to the true God - but Christ had to walk perfectly to be able to fully accomplish God's plan of salvation. |