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NASB | Ephesians 2:5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Ephesians 2:5 even when we were [spiritually] dead and separated from Him because of our sins, He made us [spiritually] alive together with Christ (for by His grace--His undeserved favor and mercy--you have been saved from God's judgment). [Rom 6:1-10] |
Subject: Disciples One With Christ? |
Bible Note: Val I appreciate your thoughts greatly, thank you. I like what you say about "dropping what they were doing and following Christ" there. You make a good point there as a possibility of being the "definitive event". You got me to musing about at what point the disciples understood that Jesus was God and wondering if it is possible to be said to be calling Him "Lord" in the sense that we take that to mean now. They called Him Lord, but did not understand at all points until the end what exactly that meant as Jesus being "God". They knew for sure He was master for a long time before they figured out He was God. I am trying to tell myself that it is somehow truly not possible be in Christ without understanding that He was God? But perhaps my thinking on this is way off as the disciples seem to display a saving faith before He died and rose again? The church did not begin until Pentecost, the work of Christ by believers began before Pentecost. Just a thought there without a point to make specifically. I agree fully that we cannot know based on outward observance when someone has come to Christ for real. blessings abound, bowler |
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