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NASB | Ephesians 2:10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Ephesians 2:10 For we are His workmanship [His own master work, a work of art], created in Christ Jesus [reborn from above--spiritually transformed, renewed, ready to be used] for good works, which God prepared [for us] beforehand [taking paths which He set], so that we would walk in them [living the good life which He prearranged and made ready for us]. [Rom 1:20] |
Subject: Created "in " Christ Jesus |
Bible Note: Greetings J. Elkins! It is good to hear back from you my friend. I had forgotten about this thread. I have posted so many times on this issue already, so I'll try to limit my comments. :-) You wrote: "The baptismal measure of the HS enabled the Apostles (1) to establish the church (as prophesied, to the Jews first, then to the Gentiles); (2) to confirm with miracles that their words were from God; (3) to maintain the integrity of the church by giving to the early Christians via laying on of their hands 9 miraculous gifts of the HS (1 Cor 12; Acts 8; Acts 19) (nobody got all 9 of the gifts) -- there is no indication anyone else had the power to pass the gifts on -- Stephen had to call the Apostles to do it (Acts 8); and (4) then to write the Bible through inspiration [the perfect (complete) knowledge and prophecy of 1 Cor 13]. The Apostles died. The miraculous abilities went away. Today, we have the HS through the inspired written Word. Paul says to Timothy in II Tim 3:16-17 that the scripture is all we need. He said he had not shunned to declare the whole counsel of God (Acts 20:27)." This is simply speculation my friend. There is not a single verse that limits the Holy Spirit to the Apostles. There is not a single verse that say the gifts would cease with the complete of the canon. In fact, Acts 2:38 specifically says of the gift of the Holy Spirit: "Peter replied, 'Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.'" Where does this passage say, 'This gift is for the Apostles only until they finish writing the Bible'? ;-) The text is quite clear that it is for 'all whom the Lord our God will call'. You also wrote: "To say the baptism of the HS was for all is to read into scripture something that is not there." Isn't that exactly what Acts 2:38-39 says? Yet, when the Cornelius example doesn't fit your theology, you insist that it had to have happened other than how it actually says in Scripture. The Scripture does not say that Cornelius repented, was baptized, and then received the gift of the Holy Spirit (per your understanding of Acts 2:38). Rather, it says that he received the gift of the Holy Spirit and was then baptized in water. As I pointed out in Scritpure, no one who is not a Christian can receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. So, we can assume all we want about Cornelius, but the text is quite clear my friend. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |