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NASB | Ephesians 1:5 He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Ephesians 1:5 He predestined and lovingly planned for us to be adopted to Himself as [His own] children through Jesus Christ, in accordance with the kind intention and good pleasure of His will-- |
Subject: Theological Term: Predestination |
Bible Note: Doc, Thank you for the 4 possibilities. I did not look them up, but merely assumed their meaning from their name. It appears to me that Particular Predestination and Particular Reprobation are the same thing. If one is true, the other is automatically true. Correct me if I am wrong on that one. Also, I didn't see an option for Free Will choice, or whatever. I think it is certainly an option. The thing that gets me is that I think we are missing something. Predestination seems quite clear in certain passages, especially Romans 9. However, it also seems that God does not want any to perish, as Val and Tim have pointed out. The two seem to be in direct opposition, but both have substantial merit in Scripture. That is why I was looking for another option. It isn't like we are going to resolve this 2000 yr debate (or older), but maybe someone had an idea that I/we had not considered. PS, I did look up the universal predestination. That goes against everything I was taught, but provided a way of reconciling predestination with God's love. Most of it hinged on translating the Greek in to "eternal" or "everlasting" into English, but I don't know Greek. And a flag goes up when you start messing with the translations (ie Jehovah's Witness). However, it does seem to solve the biggest issue I have with predestination. God's Love. jamison |