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NASB | Ephesians 1:11 also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Ephesians 1:11 In Him also we have received an inheritance [a destiny--we were claimed by God as His own], having been predestined (chosen, appointed beforehand) according to the purpose of Him who works everything in agreement with the counsel and design of His will, |
Subject: Heaven or hell predetermined? |
Bible Note: Dear lightedsteps, What you have given us is a conclusion, not an exegesis. Yet your conclusion is in harmony with my use of the passage in #223105. Consequently, I am confused about your objection. Unless you are looking at this passage from a hermeneutic based in Universalism, I cannot imagine why you would think that the first person plural pronouns in Ephesians 1:3-6 do not represent a subset of all humans: the sheep of His pasture (John 10:7-18; Romans 8:36; Hebrews 13:20). The logical conclusion is that there is another set of people who are not Christians. More than just a matter of rational thought, such distinction is all through the Scriptures: My people, heathen; sheep, goats; wheat, tares; light, darkness; good tree, bad tree; children of God, children of the devil; sons, illegitimate children; those who live according to the flesh, and those who live according to the spirit; slave, freeman; children of Sarah, children of Hagar; etc. etc. I sure wish you would take that book I offered. One of the authors was a continuationist ordained in a denomination that holds that position; not charismatic per se, but with the same presuppositions. (Still amazes me when I can't give away a book!) In Him, Doc |