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NASB | 1 Corinthians 8:5 For even if there are so-called gods whether in heaven or on earth, as indeed there are many gods and many lords, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Corinthians 8:5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, as indeed there are many gods and many lords, |
Subject: For Ray! :-) |
Bible Note: Hi Tim, I don't know how this post snuck by us without being answered, but I am happy to be able to talk with you once more on the subject. We've already had a good discussion on this verse I see. We both have looked at John 1:1,2 and see it as correctly interpretted as saying that the Word was God, not a god. This One [He,the Son, the only begotten God] was in the beginning with God. We have considered the Greek and realize that it does not capitalize. But I would have you comitted to an understanding of capitalization in the English language. And as I have said in regards to John 1:1, it is important to distinguish between "god" and "God". I would say that God is not a god; but rather, that He is God. 1) Scripture tells us that there are indeed many lords and many gods, but there is only one God, one Lord, one Spirit. 2) Deuteronomy 4:35, "To you it was shown that you might know that the (Lord), He is God; there is no other besides **Him." Deuteronomy 5:6, "(I) am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. You shall have no other gods before [Or, besides] **Me. Isaiah 45:20, NKJ, "(I) declare things that are right. 21b Who has declared this from ancient time? Who has told it from that time? Have not I, the Lord? And [there is] no other God besides Me,..." Could we not in that last sentence say "And [there is to be] no other gods besides **Me,..."? That would be comparable to the Deuteronomy passages. 3) I want to speak to this post of yours now. You have expressed to me that the Greek does not deal with capitalization and you have not been interested in capitalization. However, I feel that you are trying to have it both ways as can be seen in your comments here. a) Is 43:10: You have gone with the NIV rather than the NASB, NKJ, or the KJ. "Before me no god was formed," This lower case implies that God is a god. b) Is. 44:6: The verse reads "apart from me there is no God" yet your comment is that it clearly says "apart from God there is no god." "There is no God" and "there is no god" is not the same thing. c) Is. 44:8 "Is there any God besides me?". You see the verse as asking if "there is any god besides God?" "Any God besides me" and "any god besides God" is not saying the same thing. d) Is. 45:14: "God is with you, and there is no other;" Verse 18: "I am the Lord, and there is no other." And yet you go with the NIV for verse 14 where it says that "there is no other god." I can not see why you go with the NIV which again implies that God is a god. e) Is. 45:21 I have already considered by saying that there is to be no other gods before Him. He is the only One able to save. A righteous God and a Savior, there is none other. f) Is 46:5: To whom would you liken (Me), And make Me equal and compare Me, That we [sic] should be alike?" We can not compare God with man; nor can we compare Him with a god, for there is no one like Him. God is not a god. From the heart, Ray |