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Subject: Should Women Wear Hats? |
Bible Note: Dear John, I have repeatedly tried to attach the scriptures by going up to where it says in two different drop downs to do so. Every time I do my screen snaps out, even though I have not clicked go and I lose my page and have to redo the whole thing. So perhaps you could be so kind as to instruct me how to better use this feature, please.. I would not like to have the last word John, and I don't think this is a chat room. All my long questions have everything to do with putting the scriptures in context with my question and are not intended to take up space or to chat. What I have been consistently looking for is a chance to learn from someone else the answers to my questions, if there are any answers. What has consistently been happening is that I have been getting replies that are not being backed up with scriptures, which goes back to your point, that this is not a chat room, but is a forum for Bible study. And that is exactly, if you were to go back through each and every question that I have asked I have used this site for. And even though I was not able to sucsessfully attach a scripture, I have included in each and every questions the scripture and sometimes scripture in question. And to my knowledge some of my notes in reply are about as long as my questions and part of why is I am quoting the scriptures in them and exploring them in my answers... I actually do wear a hat all the time, I gave up wearing a bed hat, because obviously I can't possibly be praying or prophesying while asleep. Please laugh with me, I had to laugh at myself John... Obviously in I Corinthians 11:5 Paul is talking about women participating in the churh out loud in the congregation. Especially if you consider that they were prophesying, that wasn't silent. I am aware of the passage where Paul is telling the ultra-spiritual women to shut up and sit down because they were causing a disturbance in the congregational worship. Consider this passage with me about whether or not Paul had female ministers, not Pastors, but ministers; Romans 16:1 I commend to you our sister Phoebe, who is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea, that you receive her in the Lord in a manner worthy of the saints, and that you help her in whatever matter she may have need of you; for she herself has also been a helper of many, and of myself as well. Ok, note the word diakonos, there are many other times this word is used in the NT and in a lot of cases it is translated minister instead of servant(we all know a minister is a servant), but the translators decided, in harmony with the scriputre you mentioned because Phoebe was a woman, to say servant. However, the word there is in the masculine referring to a female and Paul did not make a mistake and he tells the church that when she arrives to give her whatever she needs. Now, it can't be that Paul was merely talking about housing and food, because he says she was working with him in ministry and he calls her a minister, there is no way to get around it she was a minister. Albeit she was working under the authority of Paul, a man, in keeping with the concept of headship, she was not an overseer like Timothy. Consider another one with me; Acts 18:24-26 where Priscilla and Aquilla were both teaching Apollos together. Although Priscilla was teaching Apollos under the authority of her husband Aquilla, she was indeed teaching. Also interesting is that Paul consistently lists Priscilla first whereever he speaks of this husband and wife team, he may have had a reason to do so. Last, but not as important, God made Deborah a judge over Israel with full authority, rule and rights over all of Israel including the men and they all followed her, an acception to the norm for then, I grant you. Do you see what I tried to do here as I have cosisitently done? I keep on presenting either a question based on the text I cite or quote, or a reply based on a text I cite or quote. This is not chat, it is Bible study and I believe the intent, if not the content is within the guidelines set forth in this site. I am sorry you are so offended that my questions, and maybe my answers seem to darn long. I tried to be concise, some of the questions were not simple, life situations may seem simple, but I am asking about the scriptures that attend to those situations and am interested in what the Bible has to say as to the over arching principle of a thing. And my concern about hats is not pendantic about an outward show of conformity, it is about an inward desire to be obedient to God in all things as He is the ultimate head of the church. I hope I am still teachable to you. God bless you John as you continue to teach... You sister in Christ, Tamara |