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NASB | Romans 8:39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 8:39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the [unlimited] love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. |
Subject: Reconciling Rom 8:39 with Heb 10:26 |
Bible Note: With all respect. Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the elementary teaching about the Christ, let us press on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2 of instruction about washings, and laying on of hands, and the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. 3 And this we shall do, if God permits. 4 For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God, and put Him to open shame. Verse 1: Let "US" clearly refers to people being addresses, namely the Hebrews. They are born again, and are encouraged to strive to become mature in understanding and living. They came through repentance and Christ's sacrifice to faith. One who has repented and made alive in Christ through the Spirit should not dwell on these beginning things of faith. Verse 2: Neither should they continually go one about washings, the fact that there is a resurrection, and a judgement. These are basic things. Verse 3: We should instead press on to mature, being skilled in righteousness. Even this only happens if God permits it. He is in full control of this, and we are not. Verse 4: Does not switch to talking about someone else, but these self same people. It is speaking of those who have received the Holy Spirit, who were enlightened by it, tasted heavenly gifts, Verse 5: have known the word of God, and the power of the age to come. This cannot be talking about people who have never been born of the Spirit, since it says they were partakers of it. Verse 6: If after having experienced all of the above, one then falls away, he cannot come to repentance a second time and expect through it to be accepted again though Christ was crucified, because that is like crucifying Him a second time. If people were not able to do this, or if one COULD NOT fall away, this warning is meaningless, and aimed at no one. Here is the logic for that: Unbelievers are not partakers of the Holy Spirit, so it cannot be addressing them. People born of the Spirit who remain in it, are not trying to make use of the sacrifice of Christ a second time. This passage speaks of those trying to come to repentance a SECOND time, and use the sacrifice of Christ a second time. The mere mention of this situation let alone the warning against trying it means the possibility of people trying to do this exists. The only reason one would try to come to repentance again and to make use of the sacrifice a scond time, is that the benefit of the repentance and the sacrifice the first time had worn off. ie that person fell away. He would not have to come to repentance, or try to crucify Christ again for himself. We cannot count on the opinion of others, but only the word of God as it is revealed to us through the Spirit. Holy Spirit is our teacher, and we can trust no other, no matter what their status. Ryrie could be wrong. 1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, "remain in him". If one is open to it, the words "remain in him" say "do not try to leave and expect to come back" To teach that once saved no matter what is not sound or consistant with what has happened to both man and angels alike in the past. I can only say that I cannot convince you of this, but that the whole of the bible can be interpreted with falling away as a possibility without contradiction in any part of it. There might be contradiction between these statements and what others believe, but these statements are not self contradictory to my knowledge, or to any scripture passage that I can think of. Sincerely Emmy and Henry |