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NASB | Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 8:11 And if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead lives in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit, who lives in you. |
Subject: The Spirit and the Word: How Related? |
Bible Note: That's fine. I don't want to seem to be cornering you for an answer. I'll be here. As far as what you did post from the RCC Catechism however, it merely says that men on both sides were to blame for the split. The paragraph does not identify the culprits (was it the Pope or just some lesser figures not acting on his behest/authority?) not does it comment at all on the material differences in the controversy that led to Trent. Does the RCC still hold the same position it did then? Because classical Protestantism hasn't budged. There is no question that Vatican II made great strides to work for unity, but I will still contend that what the RCC strives for is unity under its terms and its theological understanding. Rome still holds to the same theological stance it did in the 16th century, and its goal is to bring the "wayward" back into true, full communion with Rome. Please be aware that the Protestant understanding is NOT that all Catholics are outside of the saving grace of God. Where we disagree is where authority comes from, the nature of justification, and what makes the true church of God. There are Catholics who are indeed relying on Christ's completed work alone as the grounds of their justification, as there are Protestants who think that works and ritual and denominational affiliation somehow form the basis (or at least part of the basis) of God's declaration of righteousness on the part of the individual. The true church of God doesn't fit neatly into a denomination or visible human organization. The true, invisible, universal church is scattered among both biblically-functioning churches and those that preach serious biblical error. --Joe! |