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NASB | Romans 7:4 ¶ Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 7:4 ¶ Therefore, my fellow believers, you too died to the Law through the [crucified] body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. |
Bible Question:
Dear Steve, I did cite the scripture - Galatians 3:10. It was right there in the body of my post. We are perfect (spiritually - our standing before God). Look at Matthew 5:48. How perfect are we to be? As perfect as our Father in heaven. How are you going to get it? As a gift. Righteousness is received as a gift from God - the righteousness from God that is received by faith. I have a good understanding of law, grace, and mercy. People that mix law and grace do not understand them. Have you noticed that your Bible is divided into 2 sections? The Old Covenant and the New? Do you understand the difference between them? Look at Galatians 3:2,3 - Paul says, "This is the only thing I want to find our from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?" How would you answer this question, Steve? Then, "Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected (Mat 5:48) by the flesh (trying to establish your own righteousness apart from God's)?" How would you answer this question? Check verse 21 - "for is a law had been given which was able to impart life (it could not), then righteousness would indeed have been based on law." The whole thrust here, brother, is that righteousness, before salvation or after, NEVER comes from the law. Why? Because the law condemns. Only Christ imparts life. Righteousness is not based upon the law but upon Christ. Check verse 24,25 - the Law was given to lead us to Christ. If you have truly come to Christ as your ONLY righteousness, you are no longer under the law. Where are you? In Christ, Bill Mc |
Bible Answer: Bill, you avoided the question on the Law, grace and mercy. Read what I have. Do you disagree? Answer the questions I posed. Define "the Law." … a rule that was parceled by God (authority) to give me direction, having positive or negative consequences. For the Jews, it is the Law of Moses. There are 613 laws. While some people want to categorize them, the Bible does not. For us gentiles, God still gives us laws, including those He gave Noah in Genesis 9 and the New Testament. Define "grace." … His willingness to provide us with His enablement to find favor in God's eyes (Gen 6:8). Grace does not overlook sin. Rather, it is grace that is needed to bring righteousness into action in our lives (Rom 5:20-21). Mercy forgives us of sin, but it is grace that enables us not to sin. What is the relationship between the two? ... For Christianity, the concept of grace has to do with God's willingness to overlook our breaking His law under the condition that we have accepted the atonement of Christ's death in our place. Without any law, there would be no need for grace. With law, there is need for grace. What is the purpose of the Law? ... To restrain sinfulness (Gal 3:19) ... To rebuke sin (Gal 3:22) ... To reveal our need for Christ (Gal 3:24) How does "the Law" or any law effect our lives, today? ... The bottom line is this: the end of the Mosaic Law, including the Ten Commandments as a legal code, does not cancel or detract from our obligation to obey the eternal moral law of God. God's moral law is as eternal and as unchangeable as the character of God. Therefore, the abolition of the Mosaic Law code in no way leaves us in a state of lawlessness (Rom 6:1,14; 7:6). Are we told we don't have to follow "the Law"? ... Nowhere tells us gentiles that they are not to keep the covenant of God. Paul says that we should not expect atonement for sin based solely on obedience to some of the commandments. The law itself says blood sacrifice brings atonement. James wrote further, "Whoever keeps the whole law and yet offends (beaks) only one point (commandment), he is guilty of (breaking) the whole law." (Jam 2:10) He is saying, keeping the commandments cannot produce atonement even if it were permitted. At the same time he said "Faith without works is dead." (Jam 2:17). Our faith in God's laws cause us to receive the atonement of Christ's blood sacrifice atones for sin. "For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments, and His commandments are not burdensome," (1 John 5:3) People that mix law and grace do not understand them. Have you noticed that your Bible is divided into 2 sections? … Yes. It is there are two Testaments, not covenant. The Old Covenant and the New? … Did you know there are more than two? Do you understand the difference between them? … Yes, I understand the difference between them all. If you do, explain. Look at Galatians 3:2,3 - Paul says, "This is the only thing I want to find our from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?" How would you answer this question, Steve? … By hearing with faith. Then, "Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected (Mat 5:48) by the flesh (trying to establish your own righteousness apart from God's)?" How would you answer this question? … You mixed Scripture and changed what Matthew 5:48. I suggest you repent. It does not say "you now being perfected," but it is what I am to be - perfect. Read Eph 2:10 to see how works fits in. Answer my questions, since I answered yours. Steve |