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NASB | Romans 7:14 ¶ For we know that the Law is spiritual, but I am of flesh, sold into bondage to sin. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 7:14 ¶ We know that the Law is spiritual, but I am a creature of the flesh [worldly, self-reliant--carnal and unspiritual], sold into slavery to sin [and serving under its control]. |
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Questions re Carnal Christian Teaching ____________________ "Since all Christians have remaining sin in them and since they sin every day, how much sin, or, what particular sins classify a person as a carnal Christian?" ____________________ 'Questions Raised by the Carnal Christian Teaching' '1. Are we sanctified passively, that is, by faith without the deeds of the law? (Note: I did not say justified but sanctified.) If sanctification is passive--a kind of "let go and let God"--then where do we place the apostolic admonitions in the New Testament such as, "I fight," "I run," "I keep under my body," "let us cleanse ourselves," "let us labour," "let us lay aside every weight"? None of these are passive expressions nor do they express some single act as the experience of victory or some single experience as the means of becoming more spiritual and mature. '2. Does not appealing to the so-called carnal Christian to become a spiritual Christian depreciate the real conversion experience by over-appreciating the second experience by whatever name it may be called (which is variously designated higher life, deeper life, spirit filled life, triumphant living, making Christ Lord not just Savior, etc.)? "Therefore, if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new" (2 Cor. 5:17). This passage is not talking about a second experience but rather about what happens in a real conversion experience. 'Has the spiritual Christian finished growing in grace? If not, what is he to be called, as he continues to grow in grace? Do we make still more unbiblical categories, such as, "spiritual, spiritual Christian" or "super spiritual Christian"? '3. Who is to decide who the carnal Christians are and exactly what standard is to be used in determining this? Do the spiritual Christians decide who the carnal Christians are? Does a church or preacher decide where the line is to be drawn that divides the two classes or categories? Would you like the responsibility of dividing the members of your church into unsaved, carnal Christian, spiritual? Since all Christians have remaining sin in them and since they sin every day, how much sin, or, what particular sins classify a person as a carnal Christian? '4. Do not all Christians act like natural men at times in some area of their lives? '5. Do not the inward sins, such as, envy, malice, covetousness, lasciviousness (which included immorality on the mental level) prove that a person is carnal just as much as some outward manifestation of external sins? '6. How much sin can a spiritual Christian commit and still be in the spiritual category? '7. Does the Christian go back and forth from spiritual to carnal and carnal to spiritual? How often can this changing of categories take place? '8. When and how does a carnal Christian become a spiritual Christian? '9. Are there different degrees of carnality and different degrees of sanctification in the so-called spiritual Christians? 'If some of these questions seem a bit ridiculous it is because they are raised by an unbiblical, ridiculous teaching.' ____________________ The Lordship Controversy and the Carnal Christian Teaching (Part 2) Ernest Reisinger (To whom it may concern: Please do not ask me to explain what Reisinger means. Let Reisinger explain what Reisinger means. To read more go to: (http://www.founders.org/FJ17/article2.html)) |
Bible Answer: Radioman2, Notice the opening of this article: "...The "Carnal Christian" teaching is primarily based on an erroneous interpretation of a single passage of Scripture (1 Cor. 3:1-4). " This is not true. By performing a bible search using the words "babe" and "milk" we get the following: 1 Corinthians 3:2 I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able; Hebrews 5:12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food. Hebrews 5:13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe. 1 Peter 2:2 as newborn babes, desire the pure milk of the word, that you may grow thereby, He did not even mention the other scriptures. This indicates that the author did not do his homework before publishing his article. Pastor Glenn |