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Subject: please explain |
Bible Note: Hi, leonore; Welcome to the Forum. When you visit here, keep a Bible next to your computer, or keep another browser window on www.biblegateway.com. Test what you read here against what you read in the Bible. You can find much wisdom here, but a fair amount of plausible-sounding nonsense gets posted here too. Be a good Berean: "Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true." (Acts 17:11) No one here speaks with the authority of Paul, so our words should be tested all the more. And, if I may be permitted one more bit of unsolicited advice, read the passages suggested to you. Then read the surrounding verses, maybe the whole chapter. You can "prove" almost anything by ripping a verse out of its context and applying the appopropriate spin. Many Christians (new and otherwise) substitute commentaries, sermons, movies, and Internet discussions for the Bible. All of those things can be valuable - if measured against the standard of God's word. But don't be discouraged by what I've said. And don't let your feelings get hurt. Some of us get a little cranky sometimes; for most of us, it results from too many years of seeing God's word mishandled and abused to suit personal beliefs or desires. I have a mental list of folks whose posts I pay particular attention to because they exhibit uncommon knowledge and wisdom - and some of them even disagree with me! Over time, you'll develop your own list. So, again, welcome to the forum. And welcome to God's family as well. We didn't know it, but we were waiting for you. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |