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NASB | Romans 11:5 In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time a remnant according to God's gracious choice. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 11:5 So too then, at the present time there has come to be a remnant [a small believing minority] according to God's gracious choice. |
Subject: God turns back on individuals? |
Bible Note: PaulusSecundus, These verses are only illustrating my point. What are we talking about when we say that God turns his back on us so that we can't be saved? Are we talking about when God kills an individual? That certainly ends their chances. Are we talking about election and reprobation? Are we talking about the Gospel no longer being valid for them even if they repent and believe? Are we talking about individuals in some remote time and place who never heard of the gospel? All of these require different discussions, and in the mean time its just a vague highly emotionally charged question. There are certainly valid forms of this question, we just won't have productive conversations until we define what we are talking about better. In Christ, Beja |