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NASB | Romans 11:22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God's kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 11:22 Then appreciate the gracious kindness and the severity of God: to those who fell [into spiritual ruin], severity, but to you, God's gracious kindness--if you continue in His kindness [by faith and obedience to Him]; otherwise you too will be cut off. |
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Bible Note: Hi Zach Sorry... I misunderstood you. In Romans 11, Paul is talking to gentiles about the covenant with the Jewish people. Thus, one would think he is talking about national Israel being cut off and the gentiles being grafted in. John 15 is less clear to me, but seems similar. Is Jesus condemning the Jews (as a group) for their unbelief? I think so, but with the caveat that this is given as a warning to all people. The question is... does the warning apply to only people groups, or also to individual salvation. I tend to believe the former. I base this on Paul's text, which is clearly speaking of people groups. I also think the metaphor of a tree with branches is more likely representative of people groups than individuals. In John 15, Jesus is laying out large principles about God, the Kingdom, and those who would be followers of Him. It is difficult to discern whether He means individuals or groups, or perhaps even both. Maybe verse 16 gives us a clue: 16 "You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit--fruit that will last. Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name." Were the ones who did not bear fruit not chosen? :-) Blessings Cur† |