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NASB | Romans 11:22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God's kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 11:22 Then appreciate the gracious kindness and the severity of God: to those who fell [into spiritual ruin], severity, but to you, God's gracious kindness--if you continue in His kindness [by faith and obedience to Him]; otherwise you too will be cut off. |
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Bible Note: An excellent response! With such a lengthy and thoughtful exposition, I bet you thought I would thank you and move on. Well, I do feel a little hesitant asking another series of questions, but no one ever accused me of shyness. Tell me to get lost if you want, but here goes! Outside of God's grace, is there anyone worthy of salvation? (I assume you agree the answer is "no") So God, in His infinite justice could opt to save no one and still be just. (agree or disagree?) It is only out of God's love and mercy that He saves anyone. (agree/disagree?) He could choose to save some and not others? (yes/no?) This would be just? Does the parable in Matthew 20:1-15 address this? What are the implications of this Scripture in terms of the "doctrine of election"? Are all elect or just some... are all chosen or just some? Are all predestined... etc? Does God choose, then we choose? Or does God just choose? Thoughts? That I might not be deemed lazy, I will attempt to postulate answers to these questions myself but wanted to hear your view first. I will hint that I believe God predestined us, He calls us, and that even our response to Him is the result of His grace... that we could not respond affirmatively if He had not opened our eyes and prepared our hearts. PS, would it surprise you to know I am Presbyterian? ... lol. My purpose is not, however, to win converts to Calvinism, (Lord knows, I am not the guy to do that!) but to debate with other respected Christians to gain an increased understanding of Scripture. Thanks for your insight! Curt |