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NASB | Romans 1:27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 1:27 and in the same way also the men turned away from the natural function of the woman and were consumed with their desire toward one another, men with men committing shameful acts and in return receiving in their own bodies the inevitable and appropriate penalty for their wrongdoing. |
Subject: i do believe..but this troubles me |
Bible Note: Dear ptgard05, Reading some of this thread I hope in all consideration that you find the answers you are looking for. This is a very important topic and should be addressed as such. With all dignity toward you and your thoughts please consider some truths: You state: "God created them this way afterall" God has created certain laws or as we might call them today, physics, that pertain to how things get generated. In Genesis the tree will produce after it's kind. The cow will reproduce after it's kind. The man will reproduce after his kind. It is not that God creates each of us individually except by the laws that He has put into place in the governing of this reproductive cycle. He is called our Creator because He first created Adam and Eve and we are all descendents from them. But the laws He has put into effect are that there is life in the sperm of the man and there is life in the egg of the woman and when these two laws join another law comes into effect bringing forth a reproduction of the man and the woman. Be fruitful and multiply. You can't get an offspring from a lizard and a cow. The laws that are in effect do not compliment each other in that case. He created the laws of light refraction as we see a rainbow in the sky after a rain. Scientifically we know how this happens, but God put the law into effect so it 'could' happen. If we say that God created a homosexual from birth then we also would have to say that God created me sinful for the Scripture says that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. This is not true, it is by the way of a willful act that sin came upon mankind. Man was created perfect and was given free rein over his own actions. It was man's choice not God's. So to say that a man was created a homosexual is also illogical. Since he is the offspring of his or her parents then his or her parents would have to be homosexual also. Look at a pine forest; each tree is different, yet each tree is a pine. Just as in humans, each person is different, yet we are all humans. These are because of the laws of reproduction that God has set in motion at the time creation. Just as some men who are hairy and some are not. Just as some women have large breasts and some do not. It is from the selection of the coming together of the genes of the parents passed down through the ages that these things happen, not that God has chosen this person over that person. It is the law of reproduction, which God created in the beginning. All physical structure is passed on through the genes. All moral structure is learned. Which is also scientific and proven. Homosexuality is not hereditary, somewhere along the line it is learned, experienced or desired by the offspring or a possible traumatic event, such as is known today as a "bad touch". If it were hereditary one would have to say that God created homosexuality. This He did not do, He created a free will perfect man and a free will perfect woman, what happened after that was man's design, not God's. Man became so corrupt that God wiped them out with the flood. Man became so high minded He confused their language. Man became so corrupt that He destroyed Sodom and Gomorra. These were all man's doings, not God's. Throughout the Scripture we see the extent that man has gone to propel himself into being a god…just as Satan promised Eve in the garden. Therefore, it is written: (Rom 1:20-22 KJV) "For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified Him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools". A conclusion must be drawn; all that are born have a free choice how to act and react. Commandment at creation: Be fruitful and multiply. (Gen 2:24 KJV) Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. In all respect, terrib |