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NASB | John 3:5 Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:5 Jesus answered, "I assure you and most solemnly say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot [ever] enter the kingdom of God. [Ezek 36:25-27] |
Subject: does one need to be baptised to be saved |
Bible Note: Copied for reference: 2 Chron 12:13 Thus King Rehoboam strengthened himself in Jerusalem and reigned. Now Rehoboam was forty-one years old when he became king; and he reigned seventeen years in Jerusalem, the city which the LORD had chosen out of all the tribes of Israel, to put His name there. His mother's name was Naamah, an Ammonitess. 14And he did evil, because he did not prepare his heart to seek the LORD. and 7For we have been consumed by Your anger, And by Your wrath we are terrified. 8You have set our iniquities before You, Our secret sins in the light of Your countenance. 9For all our days have passed away in Your wrath; We finish our years like a sigh. I must admit, I really don't understand how these two scriptures enter into this discussion as they're both from the OT and as most everyone knows the NT outranks the OT in current authority per Matt 28. But I'll try to be gracious and respond. In the first case, King Rehoboam never had any intention of ever obeying God and never did as far as we can tell from God's Word so he should be looked as every other heathen who willfully and knowingly actually CHOOSES to defy God's Will. As far as we are concerned he is definitely not one to follow as an example. As for the latter scripture, this seems to be and we have no reason to doubt this as being an actual prayer of Moses. Although Moses was NOT allowed to enter the Promised Land of Canaan and was limited to look at it from a far off mountain, God did take the time and trouble to bury Moses Himself. So it does seem pretty conclusive that Moses for the most part led a life as a good example to us as christians. That is he tried to give God his obedience but he was definitely human like King David, Apostle Peter and so many others. We're all human and we all, especially in this day and age, have an extreme need for God's saving Grace and Forgiveness. This is made a little clearer in 1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin. 8If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. Again, let me say it all boils down to our attitude. If our heart (really our mind, essence of man) is right, then "God will meet us halfway." He will help us stay true, genuine and clean from the burden of sin IF we'll just put our faith and trust in Him. And again, I don't see how I could possibly be any clearer on this subject. If you really are interested in following God's Will and His Word, do pray about this and re-read these scriptures with a truly open mind and an open heart. I do hope God blesses you with understanding. Rowdy |