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NASB | John 3:5 Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:5 Jesus answered, "I assure you and most solemnly say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot [ever] enter the kingdom of God. [Ezek 36:25-27] |
Bible Question: There are many debates over the Baptism subject.. but why is it mentioned many times relating to the holy ghost for example acts 1:5 "For john truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the holy ghost" many people here are telling me you dont need to be baptised to be saved but why is it always mentioned? and why did jesus say himself to get baptized and believe? nobody has given me a concrete answer yet. Why did jesus himself say it in john 3: 3-7 and mark 16:16 nobody has given a real explanation |
Bible Answer: stebert1, Those who believe in regenerative baptism hold that it is a sacrament that not only symbolizes something but actually effects the transmission of sanctifying grace, which is the very life of God within us. In this way we come to have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. It is the very scriptural citations to which you allude that cause them to hold such a position. To say that baptism is efficaious in tranmitting sanctifying grace does not limit God or restrict Him from dispensing his grace in any other way He pleases(i.e. Acts 11:44). It merely asserts that God has associated his grace with the sacrament of baptism as the ordinary means of its tranmission and entrance into the Body of Christ, the Church. Those who deny regenerative baptism say that the grace is already transmmitted by faith and that baptism is merely a public symbol of having received and accepted that grace. One position holds that scripture teaches that God can and does choose to work through his redeemed creation to transmit his grace and that this in fact displays God's glory and sanctifies his creation. The other position holds, according to their understanding of scripture, that the concept of baptismal regenration actually detracts from God's glory and limits his sovereignty because man and matter (i.e. the minister and the water)are involved in the administration of the sacrament. At least that is how I see the different positions. I hold the first, but find debates on the question rather fruitless. Emmaus |