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NASB | John 3:14 "As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up; |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:14 "Just as Moses lifted up the [bronze] serpent in the desert [on a pole], so must the Son of Man be lifted up [on the cross], [Num 21:9] |
Subject: Jesus' Instruction to Nicodemus |
Bible Note: So, it's deja vu time again. Calvinist A. W. Pink has been called on center stage once more, saying the same things he said back during the infamous Calvinism/Arminianism debates that strapped this Forum for weeks on end a couple of years ago. This question of what "world" meant in John 3:16 was debated and debated and debated, as was whether the Bible writers meant "all" when they wrote "all" or whether they meant something quite different. And what did it accomplish? Did one side convince the other of anything? Were minds changed, hearts lifted, or sinners touched by these protracted debates? No, not to anyone's knowledge they were not. So what were the fruits of the skirmishes? Divisiveness among believers and schism in the Forum, the fallout from which cost this Forum a number of excellent users who left it in those days and have never returned. Dear Forum readers, this condition simply must not be allowed to continue unchecked this go around. Debates and pushing doctrinal biases is forbidden on this Forum and offenders will be brought to the attention of the Forum owner, the Lockman Foundation. One sometimes wonders just why some of the plain and forthright statements of Scripture, such as the beloved John 3:16, must be parsed so severely. Could it be because these clear statements must be parsed and tailored to fit a certain theological system, without which parsing and tailoring the Scriptures themselves would repudiate the system? --Hank |